From fired coach of Texas Tech, to OC of USC to head coach
by Steelhop (2019-01-08 15:34:28)

of Arizona, all in the span of 6 weeks. Pretty unbelieveable if it didn't actually happen.


The NFL wants young offensive minded coaches now. It is the
by 1978Irish  (2019-01-09 11:59:50)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

rage. Kelly is too old to fit the criteria. Anyway, ND offense has generally been mediocre.

If this were Kelly in 2010 - fresh off Cincinnati offensive play, he might get an NFL shot.


As a Browns fan, it warms my heart
by golfjunkie17  (2019-01-08 21:51:08)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to hear about people complaining about their NFL team, and not qualifying it with a “at least we’re not the Browns” caveat.


Kelly probably wants to hire Kliff's agent *
by tenordrum75  (2019-01-08 19:50:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


At the least, get access to his notes. *
by SWPaDem  (2019-01-09 13:41:44)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Does he need to get fired to have any street cred? *
by Doggie  (2019-01-08 23:45:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


We should fire BK so he can finally pursue his dream *
by DakotaDomer  (2019-01-09 08:04:41)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


From the Lane Kiffin school of Career Management *
by NDvermin95  (2019-01-08 18:55:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Cardinals probably least desirable job in the NFL
by Doggie  (2019-01-08 17:17:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Firing a respected coach after one year doesn't help one's reputation.


Why is it the least desirable NFL job? *
by NDAtty  (2019-01-09 09:11:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Job security is #1.
by Hanratty5ND  (2019-01-09 14:01:35)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There isn't much job security in the NFL to begin with--but if a coach has has an option of going to NFL team X or the Arizona Cardinals--they will likely pick the team that hasn't shown they will fire a HC after just 1 season.

The organization has other major issues.

The talent on the roster is terrible....not enticing for a new HC coming in and facing a quick axe if there isn't a quick turnaround.


Wilks was clearly in over his head.
by Steelhop  (2019-01-08 19:21:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

His teams were completely overmatched. They had one of worst rated teams in NFL history particularly on offense.

He deserved to get canned.


Shades of Marc Trestman *
by sprack  (2019-01-09 10:42:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


For a while it seemed like Mike Bidwill was an improvement
by sprack  (2019-01-08 17:23:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

over his nutty tightwad father Bill. Now he may be becoming his father.

But I'm good with this. It keeps Kliff away from JT Daniels.


Michael Bidwell is a million times better than his old man
by Del Griffith  (2019-01-09 13:11:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and people here in AZ really respect and appreciate what he has done by sinking money back in to the team and facilities and community. I use to go to the cardinals games in late 80s when home on Christmas break from ND and sit in Sun Devil Stadium with 22,000 other people and watch my newly adopted pro team lose to the woeful Tampa Bay Bucs.

The team the past 11 years is light years ahead of those teams of the 80s and 90 and early 2000s. I went to both home playoff games in 2009 (2008 season) and wept when the Cardinals beat the Eagles to go to the super bowl.

I have lost no sleep over the firing of Wilks (he mentioned when he was hired that Ty Wilingham was one of his greatest influences.) I think Kingsbury is a reach and will for sure get Steve Keim fired if it doesn't work out.


Good to hear, because Bill was terrible
by sprack  (2019-01-09 20:00:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

My dad went to high school with him. He says he was goofy then, too.


Pure Cardinals. Unhappy with the guy that had no NFL HC
by 3rdSt  (2019-01-08 16:58:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

experience? Screw it, hire a guy with zero NFL coaching experience. Steve Keim’s betting it all on Kliff Kingsbury. That’s suicidal.


And the Bucs just hired Bruce Arians *
by sprack  (2019-01-08 17:24:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I think Arains saw the writing in the wall with
by Steelhop  (2019-01-08 19:23:05)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Palmer retiring he knew AZ was heading into a big rebuild.


The NFL has gone stupid
by Hanratty5ND  (2019-01-08 16:31:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Fuck, why not hire Lane Kiffin?

Arizona deserves to go 0-16 forever.

First Steve Wilks.
And now some clown who couldn't hack it at Texas Tech...less than .500 winning %. Talk about riding Patrick Mahomes coattails.


And yet they still won't hire Brian Kelly *
by ShermanOaksND  (2019-01-09 09:13:26)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Failing upwards *
by NavyJoe  (2019-01-08 16:11:35)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I actually think it's kind of genius
by irishrock  (2019-01-08 15:48:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He's a QB whisperer and AZ has a young one that needs a lot of coaching/nurturing along. Obviously, he'll need to find a GREAT DC, but if he does this and gets the O going, AZ will be in good shape.

Plus it screws over Southern Cal some...which I can't deny I enjoy.


How did he do finding that great DC in 7 years at TT?
by Naughman  (2019-01-08 18:12:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's an objectively stupid hire made by objectively stupid people.


Lubbock? Ever been there? Lived there?
by irishrock  (2019-01-08 19:00:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It’s not the end of the world, but you can see it from there.


It's so flat, you can stand on a bottlecap and look into
by rick  (2019-01-08 20:02:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the horizon and see your rear end. Pumpjacks in your backyard, cotton fields, and tumbleweeds.
On the good side, the country club is affordable.


Tumbleweeds
by Denver Jim  (2019-01-09 13:04:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I played baseball for New Mexico Military Institute and we played Lubbock Christian in Lubbock. I was hit by one traveling about 40 mph while chasing a fly ball. I think I missed the ball. What a desolate place west Texas is. And those tumbleweed blizzards while you are driving are something to behold!


don't forget our time in Clovis which along with Lubbock
by abqgant  (2019-01-09 19:02:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is located in the Llano Estacado. What desolate country. No wonder we're touched in the head.


Explains some things. *
by SWPaDem  (2019-01-09 21:24:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


If i go to the NM "game" I'll be bringing lobo dogs
by abqgant  (2019-01-09 23:21:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

How many do you want? Oh...bring mustard
AE can bring relish. They're great with Pabst.


Sounds like a great plan. I'm counting the days starting now
by SWPaDem  (2019-01-10 08:18:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Just the thought of tying together Bullet Bob's unfulfilled penchant for rotating tube steaks and New Mexico's devilish incarnation of same has my mouth watering already. You may want to check with AE though. He loved throwing out from to to time ketchup as the preferred hot dog condiment, I think mostly to get a rise out of all the board, grill-based foodies.

So, come next summer, we'll need an update from you on your travel plans. We're expecting that "if" changing to "when", you know. You may know that I met Denver Jim as did AE in South Florida back in early January 2013 (great memories, I think, except for that football game part); I'd just love to see the sibling interplay at work with you two after lobo dogs and Pabst. Although I will say that DJ took particular interest in my telling him of my dad being in the spirits business for Schenley Distillers back in the day.


Our grandfather was a liquor salesman in Canada...
by abqgant  (2019-01-10 23:28:24)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

dad loved beer--any kind any time, so it's no surprise DJ perked up when hearing about Schenley.

We once calculated how much beer my dad drank in his adult life. It was a phenomenal amount. His diet was horrible--sausages fried in crisco was a favorite.

His cholesterol was in the 175 range. I'm on statins trying to keep mine at 210.

Healthy living is overrated apparently.

Speaking of ketchup on a hot dog, that's how my dad ate them. Hmmmmm




Trestman was a QB whisperer too *
by rick  (2019-01-08 16:40:36)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"Some??" They are reacting like the Mongol hordes ran
by usmcirish  (2019-01-08 16:05:32)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

off with their women.