As to how we get players to stop lowering their head
by KeoughCharles05 (2020-01-31 21:45:51)

In reply to: Jevan Snead  posted by TWO


I think the answer is to have them play without helmets.


Teach proper tackling at the lowest levels. *
by 84david  (2020-02-02 16:23:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It's a natural instinct
by SixShutouts66  (2020-02-01 15:51:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to try and make contact with your shoulders. It protects the stomach and chest from absorbing the blow and provides power to go forward. The runner generally isn't trying to hit with the helmet, but it msy be the first part of the body to make contact.


Facemask more than helmet
by btd  (2020-02-01 00:24:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But... the rules need several generations to take effect IMO. The cycle of players being taught to launch themselves like a missile at someone versus form tackling has to work its way through the system from pee wee football into college. The first group through that process gets marginally better at playing the game closer to how it was played decades ago. The next generation after that is no longer being coached by people that don't agree with it and no longer really knows the old way ever existed.

Helmets are needed just for basic protection from the head hitting the ground, etc. If you eliminated the plastic masks, the extensive bars on face masks that now exist and basically made players play with the 1970's style QB two bars around the mouth style face mask, it would force players to stop leading with their helmets -- because too many of them would be breaking their nose, eye injuries, etc.


That was suggested in SI way back in 1964
by LuckyMcD  (2020-02-01 16:41:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I know he's persona non grata here, but Fritz Crisler suggested that so long ago that the article also mentioned how big offensive tackles were getting, saying they don't even get recruited if they don't weigh at least 230.

"I am one who is concerned about the equipment we're using today. I have the feeling that it is contributing to injuries. The equipment was supposed to protect the wearer from injury, and now I'm wondering if it isn't causing injuries.

"I would like to see a rule on the subject of equipment—the face mask, the headgear, this unyielding armor we're putting these kids into. I've declared myself. I am convinced that we ought to take off the face mask and review the helmet. You see, you get the depth of this unyielding plastic in the back of the neck and you get this face mask out front. A blow of some sort underneath the mask can cause a whiplash in the back of the neck, in the area of the cervical vertebrae. A blow of this kind could be fatal. It has been fatal. There is also the danger that, with grasping the mask itself, you will get a sharp head rotation and a disabling injury.

"There is another serious point to be made in this same connection. The face mask and headgear are changing the mechanics of football, and blocking in particular. Now they're blocking with the head. The shoulder blocks and side body blocks are gradually disappearing. This use of the headgear as a weapon is called spearing. They have spearing drills. Some call it goring. Now, if you took the face mask off, it isn't likely that they would be able to do that sort of thing."

The 1964 Rules Committee meeting voted to make it a personal foul for a player to ram an opponent in the head, face or neck with his helmet or neck. Nothing was said about changing the helmet or removing the mask, as Crisler so strongly recommends. Was anything being done about that problem?

"There are a number of studies going on," said Crisler. "Here at Michigan, Bennie Oosterbaan [Michigan's famous All-America end and former coach] and I have been assisting Dr. Richard Schneider, a great neurosurgeon, by getting films together for his study of football fatalities. There is conclusive evidence that with today's helmet and face mask you get that whiplash I mentioned."

Without the face mask, wouldn't there be some teeth knocked out, some noses broken?

Crisler looked around the walls, his eyes lingering a moment on one of the portraits of Stagg.

"I would rather have that," he said quietly, "than to see a boy on a slab in the morgue."


Exactly, and
by novadamer  (2020-02-01 09:44:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

it wouldn't take a generation to change the behavior. A few hours in practice, and players leading with their faces (now) would stop doing it.

Losing the sense of invulnerability is a powerful impetus for change.