You are correct about the defense.
It's how you build a dominating franchise.
Wrong and stubborn is a bad combo flounder.
Apparently you don't think much of the intelligence level of Notre Dame players.
And, what goal would you like them to shoot for next year if not the national title?
1. Ending with a strong performance will help 2015 recruiting vs ending with a 4 game losing streak and USC blowout loss
2. Bowl practice time will especially help the newer contributor in 2015. Plus, great game experience for guys like McGlinchey and Morgan.
3. Perhaps someone (Holtz?) got thru to Kelly and told him that ND needs to run the ball (as opposed to running just one of first 15 plays vs USC). Hopefully Kelly learned a blueprint for 2015.
I suspect that virtually everyone who wanted to skip the bowl game now understands that such an opinion was based on emotional exhaustion and not logic.
Ohio State's numbers in the category of rushing defense aren't great but those in passing, scoring and total defense are... Alabama's in passing and scoring aren't so good as their rushing and total (defensive numbers posted this season only against FBS teams) but they're still well above average.
Florida State's defensive stats are above average but far from dominant. Oregon has allowed a lot of yards this season...mainly through the air. Their figures against the run are above average with scoring defense their best category of these.
The SOS rankings are as follows: Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, and Ohio State.
bowl team and talked about the stage being set for that team in 2015. That's what those idiots say and do. It has nothing to do with Kelly and Notre Dame. I can't argue with anything you said about dominating defenses.
...so just to be clear, you view the game as a "Loss" right?
Bowl win may be lipstick on a drag queen of a season but we knew going in that this team was young and that most of the key players would be returning, including a suspended stud or two. Or three. Will key juniors/seniors stay as well? We may not need them all.
"Next year could be the year?". It should be the year. Nothing wrong with great expectations, eh Pip?
Simply put, that bowl win over a ranked SEC opponent gave players, coaches, administration, fans, meanies, and recruits a big bump heading into the new year.
But this game was full of opportunity, and ND seized it. The crowd was large and into the game, ND played its second-best game of the season, and we somehow have regained momentum after an awful November.
We really needed this win.
at the end of the FSU game?
After crapping the bed during the last half of the season our bowl options were limited. Tax Slayer, Pinstripe and Sun all offered less appealing opponents.
A win in the Belk Bowl against Georgia would not have provided as much of a bump since the narrative would have been that ND played the 2nd place team in the weaker SEC division. More problematic, they probably presented a more difficult matchup for ND with a more balanced offense.
Fate presented ND with a good matchup. Kelly put together the type of offensive gameplan we've wanted; Brindza found redemption in a GW field goal; Zaire proved himself worthy of leading the team - and even held for the field goal; Golson played well under what had to be extremely emotional times; the much maligned defense came up with stops when it counted most.
There are most certainly issues that linger: Golson's future; an inability to get the ball to Bryant; replacing Riggs; staving off poaching from Harbaugh; Kelly's interest in the NFL. All that being said, I simply cannot imagine how anyone can view this victory as anything but a huge boost to the program and a glimpse of the foundation upon which Kelly could build next year's team...should he choose to use it.
The possible bowl-opponents this year were pretty good. What is nice is the number of possible SEC tie-ins:
1st place non play-off: Orange Bowl - Mississippi State
2nd place non play-off: Russell Athletic - Oklahoma
Tier 1 Bowls:
Belk - Georgia
Pinstripe - Penn State
Sun - Arizona State
Music - LSU
I'd like to see everyone, including Brian Kelly, lower the expectations for next year. This talk of competing for National Championships is ridiculous. I wouldn't want to try to hold anyone accountable for high standards.
I have no idea how you can watch that and still think we should have declined a bowl invitation. Despite what the fanbase thinks, the team works hard year round. They deserve the extras that go along with going to the bowl game. Which is typically anywhere from $250-$500 a player in goods/gift cards.
I also don't see how you can determine that the extra practices didn't benefit the team.
In regards to 2015, the media is talking about ND being very good because they return virtually everyone. The defense played poorly late in the year because they were absolutely decimated by injuries. They will have more depth in 2015.
If you want to avoid a game because it would be a financial loss, fine. If it would compromise our principles of academic integrity or Catholic identity, fine. But because you might lose, or might win? That's just chickenshit. I can't believe an ND fan would propose such a thing.
Notre Dame has an agreement with the ACC that includes access to its bowl slots when not in the playoffs. In exchange, Notre Dame agrees to accept an invitation when it qualifies for one of the ACC's slots.
In turn, the ACC negotiates its agreements with various bowls with the tacit understanding that getting Notre Dame is part of the deal. As a result, the conference gets better better bowls because all of them know that they wil sell more tickets and achieve higher TV ratings whenever they happen to get Notre Dame.
Everyone does well in this arrangement - Notre Dame with more access to bowl, the ACC with more and better bowl contracts, and the bowls that have ACC agreements with occasional appearances by the team that gets them more revenue than any other in the sport; but the downside of ND's contract with the ACC is that it does not have the option to decline any more than full ACC member teams have the option to decline.
When it comes to bowl games, Notre Dame is an ACC member and not an independent. This isn't new. The last contract ND had with the Big East worked the same way.
It makes you look pretentious or scared. Plus ND needs to close on some key recruits and now there will hopefully be some momentum.
You described the loss to Notre Dame. Who is the other 'losing' party?
beat a team from the mighty West. I fully expected an ass-whipping and dreaded the game. But, ND played a smart, physical game and won. It was a big win. Very big as far as perception goes and it will matter ongoing.
However, I was pretty stunned at Kelly's words in the ICON video and after the game when he pretty much threw Brindza under the bus for the season's collapse. It's his job to have his team mentally tough - it is what separates Meyer and Saban in my opinion. They are tough on their kids, but they don't destroy them as it appears Kelly does. i.e. Golson and Brindza.
adversity and overcame it.
Kelly regularly makes me want to punch him in his pudgy face. But not in that moment.
Did you watch the ICON video? I highly doubt Brindza or anyone else on that team felt like they got thrown under the bus.
Given the well-documented snapping and holding problems we had, I'm surprised so many folks view BK's comment as targeted toward Brindza. I didn't interpret BK's comment that way at all.
And note Zaire mis-aligned the hold on the winning kick again yesterday -- laces facing the kicking foot.
But good, clutch kick. Terrific, nearly error-free, win with an excellent game plan. (Who would have foreseen zero turnovers and only two penalties after the timeout call before our first snap?) I can only interpret the win as an unambiguous positive. As others have noted, this should help close out a successful recruiting haul and set a very positive off-season tone for a youthful squad.
It's amusing that the huckleberries are in disbelief that we beat one of their West Division powers. Perhaps we're even good enough to stay on the field with that powerhouse tandem Ole Miss and Mississippi State, which are two of the most over-rated, over-bought teams I can recall.
thought the comment in the post-game - and I don't remember it word for word - sounded like "if we'd made kicks at the end of the year, we would have won." Perhaps I misinterpreted because of expectations.
Brindza was emotional when getting the game ball? What were you watching?
I'm not a Kelly fan but I thought what he did for Brindza was good coaching. The kid had an up and down season but came through in the clutch and was acknowledged for it.