JT - how important is QB under center to a power run game?
by Pat85 (2018-01-11 15:03:58)

In reply to: the OL coach isn't the issue, IMO  posted by jt


I have no knowledge of football fundamentals or schemes other than watching thousands of hours of football and listening to analysts.

It appears to me that the kind of power run game you and Across talk about on this board requires at least some plays with the QB under center. Perhaps there are examples of shotgun offenses or plays that offer the same kind of quick hitting, straight ahead power running, but to my eyes, I preferred the plays ND has run with the QB under center (most in 2012, some in 2017), and the same for other college and pro offenses.

Watching the Georgia-Bama game, I felt that if they had committed to a much higher percentage of under center run calls on 1st and 2nd down, they would have established control of TOP, the line of scrimmage and the overall game by the 4th quarter (as I also felt in the ND Miami and Stanford games).


It’s not important. *
by BigNDfan  (2018-01-11 17:43:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Not during basketball season anyway. *
by tdiddy07  (2018-01-15 11:49:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That's just stupid
by HTownND  (2018-01-12 10:16:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Even for you.

Is it 100% required? No.

But to say it's not important at all is galatically stupid.


Do you watch football? Did you watch the two teams that got to the title game?

They are capable of both running from the shotgun and from under center. The idea that the spread, no under center plays is the wave of the future is spurious at best. And yes, Clemson ran power plays, so it's not 100% required, but the idea that it isn't important just shows a complete and utter lack of basic understanding of football.


I think I've asked before, but did you actually play football growing up?


Cipher *
by ACross  (2018-01-12 00:32:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


you have time to answer this but not El K's question below? *
by jt  (2018-01-11 18:46:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I would prefer it but it's not mandatory
by jt  (2018-01-11 15:15:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

you can run all of those plays from gun or pistol, especially inside zone. We ran most/all of those plays this year, along with some (I believe) wide zone where you pull lineman around like fold blockers.


About zero is you watch Alabama and/or Georgia to any
by KevinPS  (2018-01-11 15:12:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

real degree.


Now that ‘s some syntax *
by ACross  (2018-01-12 00:33:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post