"Very doubtful?" Do you know how many former USAG
by cj (2018-03-08 17:36:18)
Edited on 2018-03-08 17:38:54

In reply to: As much as people want to crush him over this,  posted by Vairish84


coaches are currently in jail? This isn't just nassar. It's systemic over decades by over 50 predators.

"USA gymnastics had a sexual assault policy, and a good one. JS helped write it;" bwahahahahaha

Where are you getting that?

Here are some facts:

"USA Gymnastics would not disclose the total number of sexual misconduct allegations it receives each year. But records show the organization compiled complaint dossiers on more than 50 coaches and filed them in a drawer in its executive office in Indianapolis. The contents of those files remain secret, hidden under seal in the case filed by Ganser’s daughter. IndyStar, as part of the USA TODAY Network, filed a motion seeking to make the files public. The judge in that case has not yet ruled."

"USA Gymnastics had compiled a thick file of complaints about coach Mark Schiefelbein years before he was charged with molesting a Tennessee girl when she was 10 years old. The girl’s family contacted police in 2002. Schiefelbein penetrated her with his finger multiple times, according to police records. He also videotaped her exposed vagina for what he called “training purposes, so he would know where not to touch her.” The girl’s family was shocked to discover the history of complaints against Schiefelbein, which came to light only after prosecutors subpoenaed records from USA Gymnastics. A jury in Williamson County, Tennessee, convicted him in 2003 of seven counts of aggravated sexual battery and one count of aggravated sexual exploitation of a minor. He is serving a 36-year prison sentence.

• USA Gymnastics had a sexual misconduct complaint file on James Bell at least five years before his 2003 arrest for molesting three young gymnasts in Rhode Island. It’s unclear what allegations were contained in that file. But IndyStar found prior police reports on Bell in Oregon. In 1990, an underage gymnast told police that Bell had climbed on top of her and told her he wanted to take off her pants. In 1991, a 10-year-old gymnast said Bell stuck his hand inside her shirt and pinched her breast. Bell wasn’t charged and continued coaching until his former employer reported him to police in Middletown, Rhode Island. He went on the run in 2004 and wasn’t rearrested until last year. Bell pleaded guilty in December in Newport County, Rhode Island, to three counts of child molestation and is serving eight years in prison.

• USA Gymnastics received at least four complaints about coach William McCabe as early as 1998. One gym owner warned the organization in 1998 that McCabe “should be locked in a cage before someone is raped.” USA Gymnastics never reported the allegations to police and, according to federal authorities, he began molesting an underage girl in 1999. McCabe continued to coach children for nearly seven more years, until Lisa Ganser went to the FBI with concerns about emails to her then-11-year-old daughter. McCabe was charged with molesting gymnasts, secretly videotaping girls changing clothes and posting their naked pictures on the internet. He pleaded guilty in 2006 in Savannah, Georgia, to federal charges of sexual exploitation of children and making false statements. He is serving a 30-year sentence."

"Robert Colarossi (President and Chief Executive USA Gymnastics 1998-2005) said he inherited an executive policy of dismissing complaints as “hearsay” unless they were signed by a victim or victim’s parent — a policy that experts said could deter people from reporting abuse. It’s not clear exactly when that policy was created or by whom."

“What we’re talking about,” Colarossi said, “is a policy that was a policy of the executive office.”

Michael Athans, an attorney representing USA Gymnastics, told IndyStar those policies go back to at least the 1990s and “really haven’t changed.”

Here's the history of USA Gymnastics presidents

Mike Jacki 1983-1994 confirms swarbrick

Sandy Knapp 1995 - ?

Robert Colarossi 1998 -2005 confirms Jacki's and Penny's account about swarbrick under oath

Steve Penny 2005-2017 confirms swarbrick

Here's what Colarossi said under oath, “to the best of my knowledge there’s no duty to report if you are --if you are a third party to the allegation… you know…”

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2940097-gggNo
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2940097-gggNo-Reporting-Colarossi-Kelly.html

Here's some more testimony from Robert Colarossi. (link)
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2940097-gggNo-Reporting-Colarossi-Kelly.html

Robert Colarossi (President and Chief Executive USA Gymnastics 1998-2005) said he inherited an executive policy of dismissing complaints as “hearsay” unless they were signed by a victim or victim’s parent — a policy that experts said could deter people from reporting abuse. It’s not clear exactly when that policy was created or by whom."

“What we’re talking about,” Colarossi said, “is a policy that was a policy of the executive office.”

Michael Athans, an attorney representing USA Gymnastics, told IndyStar those policies go back to at least the 1990s and “really haven’t changed.”

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2016/08/04/usa-gymnastics-sex-abuse-protected-coaches/85829732/

Jacki and Penny are the bookends to saucy's tenure.

Yep, it's very doubtful that the General Counsel would be in the dark....



Has saucy ever been in a Turkish prison?
by saderdomer  (2018-03-08 19:37:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Saucy will be asked about this stuff and more in multiple depositions over the next decade or so. There is already litigation up the wazoo and this party is just getting started.

As a further note, Homeland Security is getting involved. Apparently some of this stuff occurred in various foreign jurisdictions. I wonder if the Turks could get jurisdiction? Some jurisdictions like Turkey might clap saucy in the cooler while they seek answers to these various questions. Stay out of Istanbul Jack!


swarbrick and kelly have run the most corrupt football
by cj  (2018-03-08 19:52:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

program in Notre Dame history. Rogue....

When an AD lists creating digital media as his top bio accomplishment one need not wonder. That is followed by making the stadium a year round asset. Huh? He attached classroom buildings to the football stadium. It should read. We copied Doak Stadium almost to a T and tried to pass it off as an original thought. He's an underachieving, overpaid, arrogant fraud. In Turkish prison he would be Fat Eddie incarnate.

PS There is not one person on this board who would have negotiated worse than a 5 game commitment to the ACC. That wasn't a negotiation. It was a step from full surrender.


clearly you just don't like the pass based spread offense *
by jt  (2018-03-08 17:51:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


saucy was fulll of resume' bravado about his GC relationship
by cj  (2018-03-08 18:05:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

with the USAG. It was a crowning achievement until well... you know...

Let's examine the robust policy in place during sally's tenure. Now where would the President's of the USAG come up with "hearsay"?

"Colarossi, who was USA Gymnastics president from 1998 to 2005, acknowledged in a deposition last year that the organization dismissed the allegations against McCabe as “hearsay” because they did not come from a victim or victim’s parent.

No one at the organization ever interviewed Dickey, Giunipero or two other coaches whom Giunipero recommended USA Gymnastics contact about McCabe’s conduct, according to court records.

“Because they are unsubstantiated allegations,” Colarossi explained as he was being deposed by attorney W. Brian Cornwell of Lasky Cooper Law, who is representing Ganser’s daughter. “This one says he’s a dangerous coach. Over here it says an incident happened. We don’t know what the incident is.”

“But you made no further inquiry into what any of the incidents or allegations were?” Cornwell asked.

“We didn’t,” Colarossi said.

He said USA Gymnastics instead placed the complaints in a file. (SMH)

In fact, the organization compiled confidential sexual misconduct complaint files about 54 coaches over a 10-year period from 1996 to 2006, court records show. It’s unclear which, if any, of the complaints in those files were reported to authorities. It’s also unclear how many files have been added since 2006."

At least savvy has been forthcoming... He is milking ND for every last cent while spending like a drunk sailor. Hey, who knew that an Ad with zero experience on his first roll of the dice would find the answer to ND football problems. He's pathetic.... Declan, Lizzy, vacated wins, scandal after scandal, a wilting department wide NC run, .... I crack up that he takes credit for fencing and soccer championships. He's such a putz.


I think they got "hearsay" from Lionel Hutz
by jt  (2018-03-08 18:15:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

we have plenty of hearsay and conjecture, and those are TYPES of evidence!


While under oath swarbrick just forgot to mention the
by cj  (2018-03-08 19:15:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

wonderful policy he authored.

"PROTECT THE BRAND... relocate accused pedophiles, don't kiss and tell, don't remember anything, claim privilege ...file it, get a bigger drawer...!"


You just reminded me of Brand on the Run.
by SWPaDem  (2018-03-08 21:07:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A boy can dream, I guess.