Whether Kizer was 'awful' or not (a lot of times he was) doesn't change that fact. And I'm a fan of Jackson's. The rest of the lot wasn't worth shit. Now hopefully he will get to learn behind one of the greatest QB's in NFL history and in a few years when he's ready he will be much better for it. There wasn't a worse situation for a QB to play in than last year's Brown's team. The bonus is that he doesn't have to play for Browns/OSU type of fans anymore

appreciating his potential.

Another year in Cleveland and he might never have played again.

If Brady Quinn had gotten out of there after his first year, his life could have been very different. A year in Denver with Football Jesus still playing in college, he could have done something.

How many playoff games did Green Bay win this year?

There's a reason why the Browns moved him.

Just because Packers had an off year (7-9) due to their hall of fame QB being injured, does not diminish the fact that the Packers are a much better run franchise as determined by win loss records.

Packers had only their fifth losing record since 1989. Browns have had 28 losing records during the same time period.

Yes, I would say that Kiser went from the outhouse to the penthouse.

For the record, I am a Colts and Bears fan.

to trade Kizer?

Look - Personally, I really like Kizer. But he was just awful. He was was put in an awful situation, but nevertheless he was awful.

You don't win 1 game in two years by mistake.