I kind of agree with Scott Frost on this..
by TWO (2018-03-19 12:53:30)

In reply to: Scott Frost is not from the Brian Kelly coaching tree.  posted by ej


Not just the crap Kelly pulls, but I see it all over college sports, coaches yelling and screaming at players for their mistakes, like it really helps..it's letting out their frustration with the player, how that helps I've never understood.

It's worse when I see it in Youth Leagues, I've seen it many times. Coaches losing their shit on some poor kid who made a mistake..maybe even a big mistake that cost the team.

No doubt some respond to that, and I guess in the culture of athletics maybe even expect that.

I never saw Anson Dorrance coach, I just remember reading an SI article on his remarkable run at UNC womens soccer and it was clear he understood the dynamics of coaching women. I'd be surprised if he used yelling and screaming and cussing, etc as one of his motivational tools.


There's different types of "mistakes"
by KeoughCharles05  (2018-03-19 18:04:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There's the mistake where a kid makes a physical error. There's absolutely no use yelling at a situation like that. Physical errors happen, and they either happen due to insufficient focus/effort during practice, or due to more or less dumb luck. Neither situation is benefitted by yelling during the game.

There's mental mistakes like jumping offsides or making the wrong play call. For the most part yelling is going to be ineffective here, but if a player has his head up his ass, yelling every now and again might be an effective tactic to renew focus. It should be one tool in the belt, but not the exclusive one by any means.

Then there are "mistakes" that are lack of effort, or actively doing something stupid, like taking a cheap shot. Yelling is almost entirely warranted in those situations.


I go back to Devenzio often...
by mr.natural  (2018-03-20 12:24:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

(thanks, as always, to Khaddafi for the recommendation so many years ago)

He said something to the effect of, teach in a quiet room, correct in practice, and encourage during a game. In my experience, if you confuse one for the other, all you do is set your kids back. A good coach will definitely get loud, to call out offensive sets or issue reminders, but loud reproach or turning purple is counterproductive.

In my experience, most coaches understand this once it is presented to them properly. If they don't, they need to go find an adult league to play in and stop using kids to play out their inner self-esteem battles.

Positive Coaching Alliance has a ton of great material, supported by research, that helps people understand these concepts. Steve Kerr is a good example.

Brian Kelly is a nightmare. He was not ready to be the head football coach at Notre Dame, and he has been deflecting the blame for his lack of development onto others since it first became apparent he does not have what it takes to grow into the job. Of course, the problem is with those who allow him to persist in this. Maybe he'll win a championship, given enough time. Monkeys, typewriters, Shakespeare...