Kelly really needs to just have Yoon kickoff.
by daviehamsufferer97 (2018-10-15 18:10:20)

In reply to: When  posted by HTownND


He can consistently kick it out of the endzone, and it makes no sense to me to have Doerer be put into that positon.

I suspect it has to do with arrogance about Kelly's brilliant decision to save Yoon, and refusing to change course once he decides something.


Disagree
by JBrock18  (2018-10-15 21:45:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I don’t think he’s trying to be a genius. I actually think he’s trying to give a kid a meaningful role that maybe he isn’t capable of living up to. It’s similar to when he had a player holding for extra points and field goals that probably should not have been doing it.


Did you see what happened on Saturday?
by cujays96  (2018-10-15 18:42:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Yoon kicked off and tweaked his leg. That’s enough to give any coach pause.


The answer is not Yoon, it’s called Practice Coverage *
by 2ndstreeter  (2018-10-15 21:11:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kick placement is absolutely part of the coverage
by JBrock18  (2018-10-15 22:46:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You practice assignments based on the premise the ball will be kicked to a certain corner or side of the field. Your lane or area assignment can also be based on this. You will also begin your sprint down field with the idea the ball will be kicked deep right for example. When the kicker kicks it to the middle or even left it screws all of this up and can lead to big returns. This is what Kelly is referring to. It absolutely pissed my college coaches off royally when the kicker would not execute the directional kick as planned.


Here's my stupid question.Why not kick away from the runner? *
by ndlp  (2018-10-16 06:14:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You can't play afraid of injuries.
by daviehamsufferer97  (2018-10-15 18:59:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In my opinion, your best players should play until the game is out of hand.


That's fine until Yoon injures himself more than
by MDDomer  (2018-10-15 19:23:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he already is and sits out the rest of the season. There's a very valid reason that he's not kicking off.


If he’s the better kickoff man he should be doing the job
by JBrock18  (2018-10-15 21:49:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If he can kick a touchback 70% of the time how many times will he have to make a tackle the other 30%? You cannot assume injury for your kicker. They happen of course but sacrificing kickoffs all season because your kicker might have to make a tackle 5 times in a season is ridiculous. It’s an absolute fluke he hurt something non contact last week. He could have done that just as easily kicking a field goal. You’re off base here.


Yoon has had injury issues related to overuse
by NavyJoe  (2018-10-15 23:28:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Kickoffs exacerbate the issue according to what I’ve read here and elsewhere. The risk of injury is, apparently, not remote.


If he can’t kickoff I’m not sure how hes expected to kick
by JBrock18  (2018-10-15 23:29:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

long field goals. If he’s injured then he should be treated accordingly and not play. He’s the kicker and seems fine on field goal tries. If he can kickoff better than the alternative he should. I am not sure. Has he been listed on injury reports this season?


Kickoffs are a more dynamic motion apparently
by NavyJoe  (2018-10-15 23:38:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

One the posters on here has a son who kicks for a college team. He broke it down in the romper room a few weeks back. Cannot recall his handle.


Perhaps
by JBrock18  (2018-10-15 23:41:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I don’t want an injured place kicker kicking field goals though with what is on the line down the stretch now.


Then you don’t want Yoon kicking off.
by MDDomer  (2018-10-16 09:20:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He’s far more valuable kicking field goals and extra points. All you have to do is watch the video of him kicking off on Saturday to see why he isn’t doing it more often.


He doesnt kick off becuase he could get hurt kicking off?
by JBrock18  (2018-10-16 12:37:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Or does he not kick off because he already is hurt? Those are two entirely different things. If you or Kelly or anyone else says it’s the former I call complete BS.


He was hurt in the past because he did both.
by cujays96  (2018-10-16 13:12:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That’s why he’s not doing both now.

And the problem is not the kicker other than kicks going out of bounds. Kick coverage is the issue.


As explained directional kicking ia part of that
by JBrock18  (2018-10-16 14:19:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Both deficiencies can be true. As a former player who played collegiately and covered kickoffs for 3 seasons I can tell you that the kicker placing the ball where it is planned in the sideline or field huddle is just as important as staying in lanes and defeating blocks. In fact lane assignment is based on it. Kelly saying the kickers aren’t kicking the ball where they are supposed to is entirely different than bitching that they aren’t consistently kicking touchbacks. Get it?


You’ve changed the conversation. *
by cujays96  (2018-10-16 19:43:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post