in 2007 we lost to Navy, weren't competitive against Air Force, and had to squeak by a pretty bad Stanford team. Most of our games were just a comedy of errors and the team was unprepared to play. We had one system that was installed all summer long that was thrown out after a half of football, we had a defensive coordinator woefully unable to do his job, and we had a head coach that had no idea how to get the team ready for the season.

That is the worst coaching job I've ever seen in a major college program. 2016 was bad as well

the 2007 team was almost devoid of upperclassemen thanks to Ty's complete lack of recruiting for 2 years. Kelly didn't have that built-in excuse (which I think was actually a legimitate reason, given how few players were signed).

On the other hand, I do believe that if Weis approached 2007 with Sharpley at starting QB with his base offense (whatever the hell it was) and just let the team take its lumps, we could have squeeked out with a couple more wins.

4 or so wins.

Brown was just so unprepared and incompetent, but at least he had the excuse of being new to the job. BVG is just awful.

Probably a push, but both jobs were awful.

It was more embarrassing than '07. At least that year the recruiting crater could be seen.

the last four years would have a good chance at going 12-0 against a schedule like that. Ironically, there were a good number of players on the 2016 team that were part of the other teams' success.