for those who believe in the rule of completeness
by ACross (2019-04-15 14:52:47)

In reply to: Is that the complete quote?  posted by ACross


"But you might be watching the greatest ND QB in history by many objective measures."

The Capitan knew this was written and chose to omit for reasons that can be assumed to be less than good faith.


What am I missing?
by garbageplate  (2019-04-15 14:58:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Your quote in this post is identical to the one posted by El Capitan.


I take issue with his use of the term, "greatest"
by Jvan  (2019-04-15 15:21:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There are several players that deserve to be in the conversation regarding the greatest quarterback in school history, but Book is not one of them. Sure, a statistically accurate short passer in an era of pass-heavy offenses should be appreciated, but that's a long way from a designation as "greatest" or even "great". That term should be used judiciously, and OD has apparently forgotten what it really means.


Most prolific would be a more appropriate description *
by DawsonMayes871  (2019-04-16 07:58:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Dump off passes are not prolific *
by Jvan  (2019-04-16 15:24:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


What does that have to do with anything?
by DawsonMayes871  (2019-04-16 21:25:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The guy said "greatest ND quarterback ever by many objective measures," presumably statistics like yardage, touchdowns, TD-to-INT ratio, completion percentage, whatever else. Would you not say that the better description of someone ranking high (if not #1) in those categories would be "most prolific" as opposed to greatest?


truthfully it's mainly a sports talk radio type of topic
by jt  (2019-04-17 01:10:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and one of the things I like about this board is that we tend to ignore that sort of chatter.

if Book ends up being a great player for ND we'll all know it, see it, and recognize it. Tommy Rees might have had better stats than Joe Montana (for instance) but I don't know that many people would say that he was the greater of the two when it comes to playing qb at Notre Dame.


That's fair *
by DawsonMayes871  (2019-04-17 09:33:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Ian would be very effective in a Holtz offense too
by ACross  (2019-04-15 19:44:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He'd be effective in a lot of college football offenses. I would love to see him in an offense that didnt have a governor on it. Imagine driving this bucket of bolts down the highway. She tops out at about 50 mph, then tosses a rod, burns oil, and has to pull over and wait for a tow truck. Then somebody yells at the driver.


To be clear, I don’t agree with the post either
by garbageplate  (2019-04-15 16:21:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I just could not find the misquote.


and that's like why OD qualified it with
by El Capitan  (2019-04-15 15:36:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"by many objective measures"


Distinction without difference *
by 2ndstreeter  (2019-04-15 18:55:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I disagree with you both
by Jvan  (2019-04-15 15:42:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Underwhelming stats like that do not in any way measure "greatness". Another example of homer geeks being full of shit. I'm sure OD is happy to have you as a sycophant.