here's the whole post
by El Capitan (2019-04-15 15:35:47)

In reply to: Is that the complete quote?  posted by ACross


Ian Book is a really good player --
by omahadomer, Saturday, April 13, 2019, 22:57

OK, he doesn't have NFL prototype size (but then again neither does Drew Brees). He has above-average arm strength for a college QB, but he's not John Elway.

But, to quote Dabo Sweeny, "he's a baller."

OK, he didn't play well against Clemson. But neither did any of Bama's QB's.

But the kid has won every game he started except that one, and bailed out the Irish in the Citrus Bowl against LSU.

He completed over 68 percent of his passes last year with 19 TD's against 7 interceptions. He rushed for about 300 yards, and that counts sacks against his total.

He's extremely accurate, including -- and this is big in this offense -- on the run. He can adjust his arm angle and still hit the target. He has great field vision.

He makes the right reads. He's a leader. He doesn't bitch at other players. If it was on him, he takes responsibility.

Barring a horrible injury, he'll own most of the ND passing records by the time he leaves.

Nitpick away. But you might be watching the greatest ND QB in history by many objective measures.


Not sure where the misquote is. I'd post a link to the post, but it's not permitted.


Does he later specify the objective measures which he uses
by Father Nieuwland  (2019-04-15 22:27:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to define ND’s greatest quarterback?

And, by those objective measures, who currently is ND’s greatest quarterback?

I expect it is probably posted later in the thread, but I don’t read Jay’s board.


I like OmahaDomer and I wish that he posted here
by jt  (2019-04-15 18:18:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I somewhat disagree with his assessment, but that's okay.

If our qb and our offense cannot attack the middle of the field it will never be great and he will never be considered one of the greatest qb's, let alone the greatest of all. If we don't develop a better running game (one that doesn't rely heavily on the qb as a runner in a pass based scheme) this offense will never be great.

These will be true statements regardless of meaningless stats racked up against the UNM's of the world because when it comes down to nut cutting time against great teams in the playoffs (the only real measure ND fans use to determine greatness) the team will likely come up short if the two above statements are still issues.

Basically, being considered one of the greatest ever is more than just racking up stats. Right now, we get shut down by elite defenses because they can overwhelm us at the edges and don't have to defend the whole field.