That team was loaded with future NFLers.
by 84david (2020-05-22 13:28:21)

In reply to: 1991 Orange Bowl  posted by irishfaninbethel


It turned out to be a very disappointing year, because I did think we had the best team in the country. I honestly think the 90 team was more talented than the 88 champs. All three of our losses were to inferior teams in games we let get away.


It had guys who were suspended from 1989 coming back.
by domer4  (2020-05-22 15:23:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Stonebreaker and Brooks come to mind.

And in 1990, the Rocket missed all of the Stanford game and 1/2 the PSU game (both losses). Actually - if ND had won just the PSU game they would have played for the national title.

The only drawback to 1990 was Darnell (who crashed and burned somewhere before the Florida Sugar Bowl the next year).

As an aside - put those suspended guys are the 1989 team and they might have won in Miami. But wow, suspend those guys and still go 12-1 against that 1989 schedule - what an amazing amount of talent on those teams.


IIRC, we were up 21-7 at the half against Penn st
by 84david  (2020-05-22 15:59:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

got a little too conservative on offense in the second half.

Our defense gave up a ton of yards against Stanford in that game. We still should have won.


The penultimate time we hosted a game while #1.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2020-05-23 19:46:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The only time since 1990 PSU that we hosted a game while #1 is 1993 BC. Unfortunately, I was at both of those games. Both games ended with a game-winning FG by the other team.


Correct. Rocket went down with a thigh injury
by Up the Irish  (2020-05-22 18:20:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

right before halftime & sat out the 2nd half. Earlier in the season they were up 24-7 against Stanford. Two muffed punts gave the Cardinal great field position. They capitalized on both I think. Derek Brown had that pass in his hands which would have won the game.


The Derek Brown drop is a great "what if" question.
by domer4  (2020-05-22 20:52:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If Brown somehow caught that ball - would we have beaten Miami?

Notre Dame was getting lucky in pulling out victories - the Michigan State game ("immaculate deflection") was a case in point - but even the Michigan game (ND was down 24-14 and Michigan was driving - then Grbac got picked off in the end zone, another ND 40 yard play was on a lucky deflection).

And again - the Stanford loss didn't matter - we were back to #1 - just win out (PSU, USC, bowl game) and we will 1990 NC.

And lastly - we had 3 losses that year and finished #6 in both polls. How many losses did we have this year and finished where?


Remember hearing Tony Roberts with the "call"...
by harv79pangborn  (2020-05-23 10:47:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

IIRC, Lou drew up the play in the grass on sideline during the timeout.