"4 star" is a broad designation.
by MrE (2020-07-01 17:03:49)

In reply to: Where the hell do you get your stats?  posted by ribs


it includes the #32 overall player in the 2021 class (ranked just 4 spots below Tyler Buchner) as well as the #344 overall player in the 2021 class.

The term is often used by fans and ND recruiting sites to puff up the recruit's status.

The South Bend Tribune, several weeks ago, ran these two headlines side by side:

"Clemson beats Notre Dame for four-star RB Will Shipley's commitment"
"Four-star CB Philip Riley commits to Notre Dame"


But that doesn't make a 4-star a 3-star
by ribs  (2020-07-01 17:14:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You've tried this before.

This was the comment in question:

"In the last 4 recruiting cycles--ND has signed only one 4-star DE. You can't sign them if you don't really try. And Kelly & Company don't really try. I think the assistants take their cue from Kelly and take the easy path. That means they focus on the 3 stars."

Preposterously inaccurate. 4 out of 5 of the last DEs ND signed are 4 star. Rivals has Spears as a DE too. So is it 5 out of 6? Such utter bullshit.


Correct
by MrE  (2020-07-01 17:19:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It makes using the term “4 star” asinine and meaningless.


Then why cite it and judge the staff based on 3* vs. 4*?
by ribs  (2020-07-01 17:28:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Recruits have to be rated somehow. At least attempt to utilize accurate statistics.


The star system is a feel-good marketing tactic.
by MrE  (2020-07-02 12:19:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The recruiting sites want paying fans’ credit cards being hit every month, and the best way to do that is to make every fanbase hopeful and excited for the future. So more “4 stars” equals more feel-good recruiting classes, more feel-good commits and recruiting chases for more fan bases. Stir in some false-hope articles, string folks along, then wash, rinse, repeat.

Their revenue model is based entirely on blowing sunshine up your ass. Added benefit is this model keeps them in good graces with the athletic departments who can hurt their business if they deny access. You’ll never see an article on a recruiting site about which commits are overrated, never a negative word.

A secondary benefit is more recruits allocated as “4 stars” means more engagement with the supply side, so to speak. More better players is simply good for business, even though it doesn’t really work that way. More interviews, PR/excitement around camps and “earning” another star.

A great marketing trap all the way around.

If you are looking for comparative research, I believe the best way is to use 247 Sports’ Composite ranking for overall team rankings and player rankings.

Defensive End recruiting, 2017-2021:

#962 Jonathan MacCollister
Unranked Kofi Wardlow

#545 Ovie Oghoufo
#630 Justin Ademilola

#211 Isaiah Foskey
#298 Nana Osafo-Mensah

#119 Jordan Botelho
#159 Rylie Mills
Unranked Alexander Ehrensberger

#336 David Abiara
#573 Jason Onye


I don't understand the purpose of your posts.....
by Wolfetone  (2020-07-02 10:54:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

By your own account the recruiting is not remotely good enough(quite true) and then you quibble with Mr.E and Hanratty.


That comes as no surprise.
by ribs  (2020-07-02 11:39:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Your lack of understanding is nothing if not consistent. See thread linked below.

Lazy, exaggerated, undefended and factually wrong "drive-by" posts don't exactly raise the discourse around here. But that's all part of the schtick I guess.


You're quite the arrogant ass.... *
by Wolfetone  (2020-07-02 11:47:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


3* at best. *
by ribs  (2020-07-02 12:38:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post