So he put his own interests above the object of his love ...

So he put his own interests above the object of his love ...
by CJC (2022-05-17 22:37:13)

In reply to: I dont think that is fair posted by ACross

That doesn't make him particularly unique, but it certainly doesn't earn him a (Madonna) blue ribbon in the "best example of sacrificial love" category.

I've heard too many stories from too many people over too many years to argue that he isn't a fundamentally good man.

But the only way I can reconcile too many stories of him throwing players and assistants under the bus with those stories of acts of charity and decency is that the job broke him -- temporarily, at least.

I don’t think that is fair *

I would never argue that he's a bad guy

but I would also not listen long to someone who told me that "no coach loved Notre Dame more" as 89swine says above.

First of all, how would we prove that? Is there a love thee Notre Dame litmus test? Secondly, I would argue that there were certainly coaches, especially in the early years when ND wasn't necessarily the prestigious school that it is now who certainly loved the place a great deal; Frank Leahy is an example that comes to mind, and he had the benefit of actually being a really good coach (and an excellent recruiter as well).

I think 89Swine was being sarcastic and I wouldn't be able

to rank Gerry above Lou, Ara, Leahy, Rockne or others in that department either.

Getting back to the original post, I think Freeman has very little in common with Faust, and I think a bunch of guys who played for Faust and Holtz would say, and have said, the same thing.