We know nothing about Angeli from a game perspective
by localirishfan (2022-12-02 14:25:08)

In reply to: Transfer QB, Buchner, Minchey, and Angeli all out rank  posted by btd


You can't say he is Book compared to Pyne when has had no meaningful playing time. For all we know, he is no better than Pat Dillingham


Yes you can
by btd  (2022-12-02 14:33:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The decision on who plays is based 100% on potential and 0% based on performance to date. That's how it works in college when you don't have an established star and even more so when you have a 5'8" guy you have now seen the ceiling of in 10 games.

Angeli is true college size and has already shown an arm similar in nature to Book. That makes him Book at this same point in time and also graded out as someone with that type of potential. That also makes him a higher ceiling QB than Pyne.

It is largely moot though, because this is all 100% tied to the incoming transfer QB -- who will have started as many or more (likely) than Pyne and will be a normal sized QB for a top 25 team.

Pyne is also doing a 3 year evaluation and knows he can't start 3 more years at ND -- absolutely zero chance of that happening. He's cashing in now while he can.


That logic is absolutely asinine.
by Bobby OShea  (2022-12-02 20:54:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"The decision on who plays is based 100% on potential and 0% based on performance to date."

When I coached, I attended many clinics. I learned many things from them.

The best lesson I ever learned was from a clinic held by the Fresno State staff. This was in Pat Hill's heyday there. When they would play anybody, anywhere, anytime.

And these were the words of Pat Hill that stayed with me:

"Always play production over potential".
Period.


If that is the case, why didn't he play?
by localirishfan  (2022-12-02 14:45:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

How do you know his ceiling is higher? Just because he is taller and a bit of a stronger arm? There are QB's that are 6'5" with cannons for arms but aren't very good quarterbacks

Agree that Pyne is cashing in on his value, but disagree with your assessment of Angeli


6'5" with cannons for arms but aren't very good quarterbacks
by ram  (2022-12-02 14:47:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Phil Jurkevec thread is 2 doors down


See also
by nd06seattle09  (2022-12-02 15:25:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Drew Lock.