He's likely appropriately compensated by his scholarship.
by tdiddy07 (2023-03-23 14:46:01)

In reply to: So the three start who works his ass off every day for five  posted by wpkirish


And he would find no greater value in a hypothetical free-market minor league system.


The OP said he would be overpaid if they ride the bench,
by wpkirish  (2023-03-23 14:58:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I disagree with that.

What they should receive is a different quesiton as you might imagine I think it should be more than the scholarship.


Technically, they are overpaid if they don't play. Ask
by Irishdog80  (2023-03-23 15:26:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

minor league baseball players about fair compensation. Many had the choice to play minor league or play college. College is the better paid alternative unless they are a big signing bonus guy. If not, tuition, room and board plus other perks is living in style versus sharing a low rent apartment in some out of the way locale.


Key phrase of course being they had a choice.
by wpkirish  (2023-03-23 18:43:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

When discussing the football and to a lesser extent BB now they do not have that choice.


He’d be compensated more with revenue sharing for players
by NavyJoe  (2023-03-23 14:51:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Which is kind of the point here. The absolute worst player on the UT or OU roster is still worth more to the program (on a revenue generation basis) than the cost of in-state tuition at either of those schools.


I don't think that's a sound assumption.
by tdiddy07  (2023-03-23 15:33:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

For one, performance is only imperfectly correlated to revenue generation. So

Second, the worth of an individual is not measured by imagining a hypothetical universe in which all individuals at his same level would be eliminated. It's measured by the marginal value the individual provides. And the 75th-85th scholarship guys on the roster generally provide very little value either in winning games or generating revenue.

Third, there are also several factors to look at in weighing the value of the degree. States have an incentive to price the degrees at lower than market value by subsidies that benefit in-state students. Most studies would put UT value at well above its cost. And for players that would not be able to be admitted to the schools without the scholarship, that value is considerably greater. Flagship state school educations are quite valuable.


So you are saying players should be paid for not being
by Irishdog80  (2023-03-23 15:30:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

good enough to play. Interesting. What if another less talented player had their spot? I can think of thousands of players that would love a full ride scholarship. Would the results for the program change? Would less people go to or watch the game? Impact on revenue generation is the true driving force.


50% to players for all FRR (Football Related Revenue)
by MrE  (2023-03-24 16:10:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Just like the other 4 major leagues do it. Back out cost of scholarships.

-concessions, merchandise, ticket sales, parking, and TV revenue.

Let the team/school decide which players get what. Salary caps at aggregate, minimum player salary.


What sort of numbers are you saying would work for players? *
by Irishdog80  (2023-03-24 17:21:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post