Ridiculous.
by squid (2023-03-27 12:47:09)

In reply to: the 85k is not accurate when referring to "cost" to ND  posted by jt


You are treating the football team as if they are the last 85 marginal students and seem to be only accounting for tuition and room and board costs. In that case, the non scholarship players must cost 0.

To the degree it matters, I don’t know why you are minimizing the expenditures on the football team, some of whom are receiving not only a degree but also four to five years of training for the NFL.l and many more are receiving a shot at the NFL though they won’t make it. It’s not dissimilar to Florida prep academies for teens trying to get a scholarship or go pro.

You still didn’t put your marker down on the average cost per player.


85k is full freight tuition
by jt  (2023-03-27 12:56:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

again, you need help that I can't provide. You think that it costs Notre Dame full freight for the tuition of the scholarship players? Wow.

Also note that I addressed your second point (which indicates that you didn't bother to read the first time, which is par for the course with you) about value to the player of the scholarship. There is no question there is value much higher than 85k to the scholarship athlete; that still doesn't change the point that it is not a direct cost to the school, dummy.


FWIW, there's a fair amount of research on the cost of
by FL_Irish  (2023-03-27 15:10:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...delivering an undergraduate education relative to tuition. From what I've seen, highly selective universities like Notre Dame typically spend slightly more per student on undergraduate education than what they charge in full freight tuition. And I seem to recall a statement from Notre Dame a few years back that its spending per student on undergraduate education was about 11% higher than full freight tuition.

Note that none of this has to do with what it SHOULD cost to deliver an undergraduate education, just was it actually DOES cost (i.e., it includes however much bloat one is inclined to believe exists).

All of which is to say that it doesn't strike me as ludicrous to suggest that Notre Dame spends $85K per player on non-football related expenses.


OK .. I'll bite. What is the annual cost of an ND education? *
by NDFanSince81  (2023-03-27 14:43:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Tuition is the only direct cost spent on players. Got it. *
by squid  (2023-03-27 13:13:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post