I know that you aren't talking directly to me, but I will
by jt (2024-04-19 13:32:02)

In reply to: Since this won't die, I'll set aside trying to be polite  posted by Grace91


add something if you don't mind.

Those who are advocating that ND forge a different path; for ND to do things differently with like minded institutions, etc. are simply ignoring all available evidence to the contrary.

Notre Dame is going all in with this new model, whatever that may be. They obviously have an idea of which way the wind is blowing and they've decided to go with the flow and embrace whatever changes might come. The idea of forging a different path (which is an idea I would largely agree with, I think) is a very unrealistic view at this point, IMO.

I'm not sure if we disagree or not and I concede that I am not an alumnus and I do not perhaps have the insight into things that you or others might.


Thanks for the reply. I agree that ND seems to be committed
by Grace91  (2024-04-19 14:20:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to the 100MM great white whale at this point.

I largely agree with the rest of your post.

I do still hope that some time in what's left of my life ND once again has a strong leader who can return ND to doing what it does best, which I believe is different than its current path.

I'm not advocating for a league with Duke, Rice, et cetera. I am fine with continuing to try to compete in the big leagues. I don't like the path that appears to have been chosen, and I am commenting in that vein. I'm not suggesting that it can be undone. But my hope is that pressure from alumni might someday impact a future decision.

I find the excess everywhere around the university extremely distasteful. Likewise the pervasive mediocrity and lack of accountability.

Status as an alum or not should have no bearing on anyone weighing in. I do think that alums in general have a different understanding of the place. That's not a knock on you or any non-alum, it's just the result of the paths that each of us has taken.


100% across the board *
by jt  (2024-04-19 17:20:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post