In reply to: you think this is like "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless posted by jt
It's following through on what we said we'd do from the beginning.
And the punishment. One of the requirements was that ND not recognize the wins in any official way at all. We ignored that. We know why.
You need to accept that your blind support of Swarbrick and Kelly was wrong-headed and stupid.
The NCAA vacated the 21 wins. And ND acknowledges that the NCAA vacated the 21 wins.
Yet ND credits Brian Kelly with 113 victories. Those 113 victories include the 21 vacated victories.
Do we agree on the facts?
I do not understand your description of ND honestly crediting Brian Kelly with his 92 victories rather than a dishonest total of 113 wins as “fighting to maintain the vacated wins”?
My phrasing wasn't the best. But imo, its rather silly to hope the new AD will remove them (the vacated games) That's what you said, isn't it? They are already vacated. Maybe you mean the * besides the win. Whether one agrees or disagrees with that sanction, hoping that the new AD will "remove them" is going to extremes to spite a coach you detest.
No AD in the world is dumb enough to contradict Notre Dame's official stance on this matter. It's Notre Dame's stance, not Kelly's as you keep repeating.
I am fine with the Irish * besides the games. Notre Dame disputes the NCAA ruling and I am fine with that too.
To call out Notre Dame's bullshit on this (not Kelly or Swarbrick).
Our dispute is based on some faulty and nonsensical logic.
The idea that if we hadn't applied our honor code, they wouldn't have been ineligible, is quite honestly a lie at worst, dishonest at best. There were ineligible players that weren't impacted or part of the honor code process. They were ineligible because they received improper benefits. There is nothing to dispute.
We need to be adults and accept the consequences for what we did, instead of being cute about it. I'd prefer our new AD and President act like adults and accept the consequences for our actions.