Records against top 16

Records against top 16
by FightingIrishRadio (2019-02-12 17:28:18)

In reply to: If ND beats Louisville again posted by Orangutan

ND will have played 8 of the 16 teams slotted into the top four seeds in the four regions by the end of the regular season -- a number with the potential to go up in the ACC tournament. Right now, ND is 5-2 against the eight (W: Louisville, Oregon State, Iowa, Gonzaga, Marquette, L: UConn, Miami) with a road game remaining at NC State. So, a potential to go 6-2 vs the top 16 before the ACC tournament starts.

Louisville is currently 2-1 (W: UConn, Arizona State, L: ND) against these 16 teams -- with home games yet to be played against Miami and NC State -- they have the potential to go 4-1. Louisville will also have the chance to solidify its position in the ACC tournament against at least one and perhaps two of the current top 16.

Oregon is currently 3-0 (Arizona State, Stanford and Mississippi State) against this field with three regular season games remaining -- a home and home with Oregon State and at Arizona State. The Ducks could well go 6-0 against the top 16 in the regular season). And, they have the potential for more quality wins in the Pac 12 tournament.

Mississippi State stands at 2-1 (W: Marquette and South Carolina, L: Oregon) with one game left at South Carolina -- so a max of 3-1.

Baylor is 4-1 (W: UConn, Arizona State, South Carolina and at home vs Iowa State, L: Stanford) with a game at Iowa State remaining.

UConn is 2-2 (W: ND and South Carolina, L: Baylor and Louisville) against the 16 -- and no possibility to go higher. They have one fairly tough game remaining at UCF this weekend -- and after that, their strength of schedule will drop quite a bit given the weakness of their remaining conference opponents. The Huskies remaining games are against teams with current RPI's of 14 (UCF), 101, 146, 149, 230, 246.

Here are the current strength of schedules on Realtime RPI for ND and the five teams ahead of the Irish: 1) ND, 5) Baylor, 7) Louisville, 15) Oregon, 26) UConn, 41) Mississippi State.

I went through the schedules of the five teams currently ranked ahead of ND -- if I missed any of the other five playing one of the 16, please help me update this.

The ACC schedule worked out pretty well for Louisville this season. The Cardinals will have played four home games (UNC, Syracuse, Miami and NC State) and three away games (ND, Clemson and FSU) against the top half of the conference. ND will have played two home games (Louisville and FSU) and five on the road (Miami, UNC, Clemson, NC State and Syracuse).

If ND wins out through the ACC tournament, they will have a pretty strong case to move back to a one seed. However, if they can't move higher than a 2 seed, they have no one to blame but themselves for dropping games that they should have won with anything approaching their normal offensive output.

Great analysis/ We've beat lots of great teams BUT lost to

one team we shouldn't have. That's why we are #6. The other teams didn't beat as many good teams as us, BUT they didn't lose to any team they shouldn't have lost to. Yes ND has only themselves to blame.

Should Oregon have lost to Michigan State?

It's curious to me that people value not losing so much more highly than actually winning, but that's another rant.

It's just strange to me that you are so casually dismissive of "the other teams didn't beat as many good teams". That's a big deal.

No,but that was in East Lansing on 12/9 and Oregon did not

play D like it does now. They have switched to an effective zone (much like ND did last year) which has been fantastic. They have the longest win streak in WBB at 16 straight games including being the only team to beat Mississippi State and then Sunday's beat down at Stanford: 88-48. The two games Friday and Monday night with the Beavers will be very tough and I am looking forward to them as I will be at both. Monday night will probably be sold out in Corvallis and be a very tough crowd. We will see how they do.

MSU has pretty much stayed ranked since that win, even if only 22/24. That loss will definitely be forgiven, but they are the third ranked 1 loss team behind Louisville's 1 loss at ND and Baylor's at Stanford, but ahead of MSU they beat. Also if you remember ND was still a 1 seed on Creme's projection even after their 2nd loss to NC. It's the 3rd loss that puts us down to a 2 Seed. Oregon loses again, they'll drop.

That's a long answer to a yes/no question *