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by MPG (2020-06-08 12:34:22)
Edited on 2020-06-08 12:35:35

In reply to: Does there have to be a point?  posted by BabaGhanouj


my additional notes:

I believe that there is a need for a lead guard, embracing Kayo's concepts of a "primary ball handler" and "offensive organizer". That player is usually the one who also makes certain that everyone knows the defensive alignment.

Alasia Hayes was primarily a scorer in high school and will need to learn to lead an offense. Katlyn Gilbert will probably start as the lead guard for the 2020-21 season.

Olivia Miles is a tall, lead guard who can score when needed. With the U-16 team, she was surrounded by scorers, so she facilitated the offense and averaged more assists than points. I expect that Niele will surround her with scorers.

I think that the "positionless" concept refers to the versatile players who now fill the traditional 2, 3, and 4 spots on the floor.

ND would look good with Olivia Miles, a powerful low post player, two Jackie Youngs, and a versatile three point shooter.


Nice notes,
by BabaGhanouj  (2020-06-08 15:21:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

but not without further discussion. (The hallmark of nice notes)

I, too, really liked Kayo's concepts, but I think he chose his words carefully. What he said was "It only matters that the offense is organized and the team takes care of the ball. Generally that's the responsibility of the point guard." Then he went on to say basically, as I interpreted his post, those duties are needed, but not necessary by the traditional point guard. In other words the team does not need a "primary ball handler", but must take care of the ball.

Niele has seen (as has others) a 6'11" Bucks player bring up the ball on offense and go back to guard a post player on defense.

I agree with your addition that someone has to ensure everyone knows the defensive alignment. I also agree with your next two notes.

I agree that typically "positionless" has referred to the 2, 3, and 4. I was more interested in the NBA style "positionless" offense that included all positions. I think you are right in implying that women's college basketball is not ready for that. Personally I would not like to see it. Like lenny97, I'm no fan of the NBA. But could we be heading to a bunch of 6'1", 6'2", and 6'3" players who "take care of the ball" and seek their own shot? Muffet has said Maddy is that type of player, and Sam, while not the quickest, can handle the ball. Ali is close, as is Sonia. North Carolina and UConn seem to be stockpiling that type of player.

I agree with you and others that Olivia Miles can do it all. Whether or not a traditional point guard is needed, we have one coming.


Do You Think When Olivia Comes Onboard Hayes
by hempfield75  (2020-06-08 13:13:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

will move over to take over for Gilbert or Peoples??

SEG/Chief


Nope
by irishdds  (2020-06-08 14:13:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

IMHO. Just don’t think she will be better than either Gilbert or People’s. Or Prohaska. Or Campbell. Or Citron. Again my opinion only.


Who Knows? Let's See What She Brings to the Court...
by dillon77  (2020-06-08 13:28:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

..individually and within the team concept.
As MPG and others have pointed out, she was an undersized combo guard in high school who will be on a learning curve in regards to the PG position.
Still, Niele -- if memory is right -- was the coach who went after Alasia initially, so she must like her fit in ND's system. We'll see if that's as a combo or point guard.

Remember, the Irish have a boatload of off guards: Anaya, Abby, Alli, Sonia Citron (coming in).

Kind of a Missouri moment (for one and all): show me.


Thanks to All for Responding. We All Know Olivia
by hempfield75  (2020-06-08 19:18:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

will be the PG. I just hate to see talent wasted or another transfer.
Especially in the long run. I agree with you about Neile and recruiting.
She had to see something. Maybe like players before her a specialist
somewhere. Thanks.

SEG/Chief


Any team would look good with 2 #1 overall WNBA draft picks
by Domerduck  (2020-06-08 12:59:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

on the floor at the same time. Especially two who were both versatile scoring, played D and rebounded, and could play point like Jackie did for us. I'd love to have two of those especially how humble JY was, but not sure we are going to see another, let alone 2. She was special.