I agree with your thinking,
by BabaGhanouj (2020-07-13 18:42:19)
Edited on 2020-07-13 18:52:30

In reply to: Would Like To Think We'll Get to the Sweet Sixteen....  posted by dillon77


but I guess I object to your language. We are not allowed to speculate on injuries, but we know Nat Marshall had her operation in January and the "standard recovery period for ACL" is nine months. So we will have her talents and length if everything is standard.

I understand that "standard" is just that, and some feel we should be more cautious about predicting recovery. I also understand that there is speculation that her therapy was slowed by virus closings. However, without being optimistic or pessimistic, she will be ready if she has a standard (9 month) recovery.


What is your measure of a "standard ( 9 month ) recovery?
by MPG  (2020-07-13 22:42:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A return to practice after nine months? A readiness to play at a high level of competition after nine months?

My observation is that ND women's basketball players recovering from ACL surgery have taken at least a year to be ready to play at a high level. In the case of someone who has not yet practiced with the team or played college basketball, I would not expect too much when she returns to the court. Remember how Mik Vaughn played the season following her surgery.


I would guess "a return to practice".
by BabaGhanouj  (2020-07-13 23:56:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The key is everyone is different. As I said, I agree with Dillon. I'm just speaking what is "standard" by the medical profession. She may not be ready to play "at a high level of competition" any time during her freshman year. We all remember Mik, but some have returned in 6 months. I'm not speculating—just pointing out what is standard per the medical profession.

I could cite plenty of examples, some shorter, some longer. I have no idea how long it will take. Here's one that took only 6 months "to play at a high level of competition."

Kendrick Perkins, at 6'10'', has never been a major scorer. However, in averaging 6.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per game, he's been influential to the rosters of Boston and Oklahoma City, respectively.

While playing in Boston, Perkins tore his ACL prior to Game 7 in the 2010 playoffs.

To everyone's surprise, the big man made his return only six months after surgery. Although Perkins struggled a bit initially, he used the opportunity to get back into shape and keep a strong presence beneath the basket.


I included a link below for a detailed article of another remarkable recovery (not standard). I include it because it also mentions Skylar (11 months for "high level competition"—that would be November).


The article makes some helpful points. The fact that
by MPG  (2020-07-14 10:44:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Ms. Hunter returned to regular season play six months later is impressive; the fact that she was reportedly playing at 65% is disappointing to me because it seems as is if she was rushing the process. ND has tended to have its recovering players take their time which is what I hope ND does with Nat Marshall. I wonder if there is any data on female players that indicates differences between the recovery times for taller players vs those under six feet tall?


Fair Enough, But the Different Goes Both Ways, As You Know
by dillon77  (2020-07-14 08:08:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Brianna Turner was out year & a half+ when she came back and many noted her "burst" speed wasn't quite the same. In fact, articles about her in the Aussie League noted that her speed and quickness were up to speed...nearly two years+ later.

Jessica Shepard chose to not play this year and she's a year past her ACL injury.

So, we can agree everyone is different. Could we have Nat Marshall on the court for practice? Sure. Will we have the Nat we've seen tapes of? ??? That's the point I was raising. Having had knives stuck in my knee multiple times in my 20's, I'm aware of varying stages of recovery (God bless, none since then.)