He and Sane were magic today in their own ways *
by wcnitz (2017-12-16 19:06:29)

In reply to: If DeBruyne doesn’t win player of the year  posted by HTownND


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That Salah guy is OK. *
by NDMike2001  (2017-12-17 12:16:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Salah is awesome
by HTownND  (2017-12-18 10:17:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But he's more dynamic on one end of the field. De Bruyne scores but is also very good at defending and is all over the place.



De Bruyne Stats



Salah Stats




Salah is an amazing player, but the things that De Bruyne does all over the pitch aren't being matched by anyone.

There is a reason why N'Golo Kante won the PotY last year without scoring many goals.

But Salah is responsible for 17 goals, De Bruyne is responsible for 14. Given all of the other stuff De Bruyne does, including defense, etc, it's much more important than the 3 goal difference between the two.



PS - there is a lot of angst and wanting to throw darts this picture as I typed this post. Glad TSO thought it a good idea to run both of these guys off.


KDB is easily the player of the season so far
by wcnitz  (2017-12-18 11:41:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And it's really not close. He's been amazing. I don't think Salah is as critical to LFC as KDB is to City. He's been great this year, but I think he could be replaced at Liverpool far easier than KDB.

The guy who is really overrated is Harry Kane. Look at the total # of shots taken, and it's easy to see why he stays high in the goal leaders. Nobody even comes close to his shot volume. Yeah, the guy can score, but he takes way more shots than anyone else by far.

1.Harry Kane
Tottenham Hotspur
England
100

2.Mohamed Salah
Liverpool
Egypt
67

3.Richarlison
Watford
Brazil
58

3.Romelu Lukaku
Manchester United
Belgium
58


KDB, Sane, Sterling, Silva, Aguera, Jesus
by NDMike2001  (2017-12-19 11:19:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

DeBruyne is and has been an amazing player. But think of the space a player can play in when he is surrounded by that kind of talent. And the manager is one of the best. There is a reason they are all putting up big numbers.

Also, there is a reason that KDB cannot be easily replaced. Because the second best creative midfielder in the EPL is probably already on the team! Silva!

And no, Salah cannot be easily replaced. Jurgen rotates a lot. And when Salah does not play, the likes of Mane, Ox, Sturridge, Firmino, Solanke, and Ings do not generate anything like what Salah does when he's on the pitch.

Look, I'm not saying that Salah is better. He's not. But saying that it's not even close is pretty silly. Salah is directly attributable (G/A) to 45% of Liverpool goals. KDB is 30%. With several guys on his team the same or close.

Coutinho is 26% and Firmino is 23%.


It's not just about goals
by HTownND  (2017-12-19 14:10:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

DeBruyne actually plays very good defense, unlike Salah.

Again, no one is saying Salah sucks, but no, he's not nearly as complete as DeBruyne, and given he's only responsible for 3 additional goals, that's not enough to bridge the chasm that exists for the other aspects of the game between the 2.