I just don't think either are automatic.
by NDMike2001 (2021-12-19 16:41:15)

In reply to: Don't disagree re: Kane  posted by wcnitz

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Yes they're both reckless challenges. Kane's was sloppy and the more dangerous of the two. Robertson, having already been kicked in the face and been on the receiving end of Kane's challenge surely made it a point to put in a big swipe. The problem with his challenge is that the player made an obvious attempt to shield the ball (not actually playing the ball) from Robertson. So he essentially stepped into a hard challenge. The funny thing is that Robertson (fortunately) avoided the contact and probably saved himself from serious injury and Kane from a card. The Tottenham player, Royal, looked for the contact and got it.

Meanwhile dipshit Tierney thought that Jota intentionally tried to draw a penalty so he didn't call a the penalty. I mean, Jota is clearly trying to score. But even still. Since when is a player not entitled to a penalty when he gets fouled trying to draw a penalty. Laughable stuff today.

Shielding it within playing distance is perfectly legal
by wcnitz  (2021-12-20 07:06:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And doesn't entitle the opponent to kick through your leg :) It's just good positioning.

And Jota was trying to draw a foul...which he did. It's not like he pulled a Kane, stepped in front of the defender and threw himself to the ground with his hands up in the air. Like a little bitch.
I didn’t say it was illegal.
by NDMike2001  (2021-12-20 12:48:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In judging the fouls it is relevant to not the situation at the time of the challenge. One a player is stepping into a harsh challenge. The other the player is jumping out of it. Robertson’s was reckless and became dangerous when Royal stepped into it. Kane’s was reckless and dangerous the moment he went in. Fortunately, Robertson avoided the injury.

As for Jota I have doubts that he tried to draw the penalty. Again, fair play if he did. But this is a guy that’s not afraid to piss off Ronaldo by not passing. Who blasted one passed Pickford from a similar position. I’m not convinced he’s going to give Salah a pen if he’s got the slightest opening for a shot.