I am a little surprised by Arteta’s thinking
by ChicagoWave03 (2024-04-09 16:11:51)

In reply to: Gnabry  posted by mitquinn


Kiwior probably was the wrong call to start, but then why is Zinchenko the answer? He can’t defend at all.


Because Arsenal needed a goal.
by ndroman21  (2024-04-09 17:45:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Zinchenko provides more in attack than Tomiyasu or Kiowor.


Yeah I get that
by ChicagoWave03  (2024-04-10 09:44:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

but put us at risk of being down 3-1 as much as an opportunity to get to 2-2. And, really, we actually looked worse with the shift in formation having White stay back until Jesus/Trossard came on.

But, ultimately got to 2-2 and on to Munich to see if we can move on. Not terrible, but really should have done better today. A couple mistakes away from really being in a great spot.


If White buries the golden chance at 16'....
by ndroman21  (2024-04-10 10:03:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...the margins are just so thin against good teams. Bayern, despite their struggles this year, are still an excellent team with absurd individual talent.

Raya had a pretty bad day. Don't know what he was doing so high up the pitch when he still had defenders in front of the ball. And both the goal and the Bayern chance off the post went right through him. He really should have been down for both, IMHO as a former keeper. Make them at least elevate the ball.


IMO, the mistake there was the choice to play on the ground
by wcnitz  (2024-04-10 10:05:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Just clear the damn ball upfield when you see the keeper out of position. Put it 50 rows up. Don't take a poorly footed turn and make a bad pass on the ground.


It was just ancy play all around in that sequence.
by ndroman21  (2024-04-10 10:11:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Raya had no need to come up for that ball and confuse Gabriel.

Gabriel rushed more than he needed to. He had both Raya and Saliba inside and wasn't under tremendous pressure. Could've easily taken an extra touch and played that ball. Or, as you note, just clear it OOB and give your teammates time to get back into shape.

Kiowor was flat-footed and should've done better with the pass. Once he didn't get it, he should've reacted to defend faster.

Arsenal wasn't quite ready for the bright lights, I think. They are young and inexperienced, after all.


Yep, they were pretty naive
by wcnitz  (2024-04-10 10:17:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's a learning experience for most of those players. The line between winning and losing in CL knockouts tends to be a very fine one.


Empty stadium? *
by wcnitz  (2024-04-10 09:46:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


No sorry, that was a mistake. *
by ChicagoWave03  (2024-04-10 09:51:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Timber haunts
by mitquinn  (2024-04-09 16:38:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Been the squad hole all year.

I like giving Jakob the confidence to start. Unfortunate mistakes.

I guess going down a goal, Z has the through ball dimension to add.


The bigger mistakes were Raya’s and Gabriel’s.
by ndroman21  (2024-04-09 17:50:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Arsenal looked like a team without European experience for much of the game. Indecisive and tentative.

The draw was a fair outcome.