don't we have to be at least .500 - is that still the rule for NIT selection?
Get ready for 4 conference wins.
If I had to guess right now I'd say 8. I think this team will improve but it might be too late if they don't get a few wins early.
I'm not sure I even see ND getting in even if they somehow really improve and get to 9-9 in conference. It doesn't take beating any really good teams to get to 9 this season.
And ND's OOC schedule was putrid (KenPom #324). Tough loss to Radford who hasn't faired so well as of late. Best hope is Purdue improves and quick.
KenPom is predicting 7 straight losses after the BC game. This season, like last year, is going to be another long, painful, joyless slog.
To clarify, the Pomeroy individual game results are all predicted losses in that stretch, but, yes, that does not mean that he's predicting zero wins in the aggregate.
Will be NIT tourneys. Injuries and no depth did us in last year and uneven and possibly flat out failed recruiting getting us this year.
Why are some of our highest rated recruits over-rated or coming off injuries or both?
Around a third into the season and the recruit Brey said had to be the man is killing us on O and being requested to sit more by esteemed posters on this
Do you think he’s playing like a top 60 recruit?
Who said that?
To drive home how unwise doing that can turn out to be.
Treys 25 for 60
Hubb is now 12 for 62
Not writing Hubb off and did not with DJ. As taxman noted, with his shooting numbers he is a major negative and should not start.
...DJ was underwhelming to say the least as he adjusted to the college game. We beat Kansas and MSU head-to-head for him in recruiting and expectations were through the roof that he’d be an instant impact guy. Instead Vasturia was the one to make a much bigger stamp freshman year in that class.
This whole subthread was based off the notion Hubb is “overrated.” He’s not very good right now, hard stop. Patience before passing judgment served us well with DJ. Hopefully it will with Hubb as well.
Didn't you know these freshman won't really improve? They're basically finished products, just like Bonzie, Farrell, Grant, and Connaughton were coming into ND.
and now you come back with a reply post that pokes fun of over rated posts directed at the current freshman.
Wow- beyond SMH. You recall the movie Sybil?
I tend to agree with you that Hubb sure seems over rated- but that's not my point.
can't and won't improve lol. His ranking was also based on his performance before his ACL injury.
Hubb is overrated and coming off injury.
Harvey is probably a bit overrated and coming off injury
Laszewski is properly rated.
Goodwin is properly rated.
Hubb was the only one injured in high school and that happened after he committed to ND in the summer going into his senior year
And now play for NIT bids. Hubb needs more time coming off surgery. Too
soon to write him off...
Unless massive improvement pending, but even thinking back to T Francis, who may be MB’s highest rated recruit
So they'll be 1-2 after i'm assuming they beat BC.
@UNC - L
NCSU - Most likely L but could see them winning
@GT - W
UVA - L
Duke - L
@BC - W
@Miami - W
At worst they would go 2-5 in that 7 game stretch. Literally no chance they lose all 7 of those. If they want to have any chance of making noise, they'll need to go 4-3 which isn't out of the question at all. NCSU at home will be a good game. They haven't really been tested but ND's 3 pt defense is a major cause of concern as Cuse just hit the most they have all year
Probably would be wise to disabuse yourself of any fantasies about making the NCAA tournament and recalibrate expectations based on how the team actually looks.
We aren't good.
as Taxman said above and next year should be solid. Laz gains strength, Hubb finds his shot and this can be a dangerous team next season.
I said if they go 9-9 they'll make it and pointed out how they should be around 9 wins based on the schedule.
I know you claimed Kenpom said ND would lose 7 straight after BC but that's just not going to happen. Sorry.
This team will if I had to bet right now go 8-10 in the ACC... Not 4-14 like you're suggesting.
Let me help you here: it's out of the question.
If you took the time to look at the opponents, how is it out of the question to beat:
Only NCSU is ranked. BC and GT lost their best players by far from last year (2 first round picks). Wake and Pitt are absolutely terrible. Miami lost their 3 best guys, including 2 to the NBA. Clemson is a tough experienced team but it's at home.
So NCSU and Clemson would be huge wins. How is it out of the question again to get to 9? This ND team will improve as the season progresses.
It's not out of the question to beat some of those teams but it is out of the question to beat all of them. Shit, we could lose to any of those teams.
We aren't a good team. Accept it and move on.
We'll see. I'm happy we saw Gibbs play really well and hopefully that can continue. Mooney and Durham have proven to be very good. Harvey will only get better, just as Nate and Goodwin will. Hubb needs to eventually start making shots, right?
Most likely won't get 9 wins but i'm excited to watch these young guys improve throughout the season and for next year as Rex and Carmody will join and ND won't lose anyone.
I predict there will be games where he makes one shot (like Va Tech).
point attempts? He's now under 20% and attempting over four a game, that's a historically bad pace.
It's not the missing that is bad. It's the missing the rim part that bothers me. I think he grazed the rim on one. Djgo should get a few more minutes in my opinion.
one was an end of the shot clock heave.
The one he took to start the second half was 30 feet out and an airball.
Opposing coaches will be leaving him open.
FWIW another poster noted that Fatts Russell at RI is 15 for 83.