In reply to: I have enjoyed it but I had forgotten how petty posted by KnightlyRevue
On a 3 time champion Bulls team and pursue baseball? Seems like your standard for Pippen and Jordan are different when Jordan was much less “all in” on the team and completely quit in the middle of what could have been the greatest run in the sports history outside of the Bill Russell Boston Celtics.
I did not mention any of the other examples you post as an example of Jordan’s pettiness so I don’t know what point you are making. In terms of his treatment of Isaiah, his hall of fame speech (which was embarrassing at the time as Jordan used portions of it to settle old scores instead of celebrate a lifetime of elite achievement in the court) and in his treatment of a supposed friend in Barkley point to someone who unnecessarily holds grudges and has streaks of pettiness.
in, half out.
I remember Jordan’s HOF speech live, and thought it was odd. Mostly because I didn’t know what he was talking about.
I’ve watched it twice more in the last 2 months. I don’t think it was petty. Krause deserved what he got. I don’t think he was being mean to anyone else.
He didn’t retire just to play baseball on a whim. He was tired of the media blitz continuously pushing the gambling angle and than his dad was murdered. A little different than getting a surgery late to make a point about a contract.
was caused by MJ himself with the bravado around all of the gambling and leaving his team to go to Atlantic City to gamble being down 2-0 to the Knicks. His father dying obviously played a factor but not enough of one to stop playing sports altogether. Is that selfish?
Look, I know some people want their heroes to be without warts. I said in the first post that I love Jordan and all he did for the city of Chicago. I recognize him as the greatest player of my generation, and even though I like Magic more, its not a close in my opinion and I will rely on Magic's own words "Michael Jordan is the most talented player I have ever seen...by far."
Having said that, there are moments where Michael's insatiable need to be right and invent boogeymen who are against him have made him seem petty and bitter. Go see his hall of fame speech...it's bizarre. Who uses that moment to settle old scores from high school? Scores that no one in their right mind would say that you lost? Michael seems to be comfortable calling out everyone's warts but his own. He lacks a fundamental empathy in certain situations. I feel the documentary has shown that side of him.
I guess I don't know what people are arguing? That Scottie is more selfish than Michael? Uh, ok. There is evidence of that (1.4 seconds is all I have to say) but I also think the original argument that Michael seems like an eternal petty grudge holder is also true.