Edited highlights: Burton vs Kokomo's Flory Bidunga (#3 US)
by Raoul (2023-03-25 20:05:38)

Burton is very good. Budinga is 2024 and has not chosen yet.




ND's watched Bidunga
by SB Jimbo  (2023-03-25 23:08:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Solomon saw him.

He's from Congo and I believe this was his 1st year in the US. I wonder if academics may have prevented Brey from making an offer.

If the Irish offer now, I'll wonder if Shrewsberry got relaxed admissions standards as part of accepting the job.


He came in ‘21
by CrazyMary  (2023-03-26 01:39:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

academics aren’t an issue, high-end. Mostly college-prep classes at Kokomo International, speaks 5 languages. Grew up playing soccer which you can tell by his footwork and how easily he races up-and-down the court.

More likely than academics, ND didn’t feel a real need to waste too much time on his recruitment. Shrews 100% understands the dynamics at play, lot of moving parts.

I’m really interested in who joins Shrews’ staff now that he’s back in the Midwest.


Could you please elaborate on your second paragraph? *
by Freight Train  (2023-03-26 08:51:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Brey Didn’t believe
by jamnd74  (2023-03-26 12:13:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He could recruit him. Had no points of connection. This young man is smart and wants a good relationship with a coach and team that he can also commit to.


Apologies, I'm totally confused
by Freight Train  (2023-03-26 14:18:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Why didn't Brey think he could recruit him? "Had no points of connection"? What was Brey's connection to Friedrichsen or Dunlap, just to name two recent examples, before he started recruiting them?

Coaches quite often don't have any connection with a recruit. They have to build those connections and work hard at doing so.

Kokomo is 90 miles from South Bend. It's not difficult to make connections given that proximity.


This is very different
by CrazyMary  (2023-03-26 15:48:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A connection wasn’t going to be “built”. Maybe an established “relationship” is a better term to use. I’m going to be intentionally sort of vague here as the specific details don’t matter to the “why” you’re asking.

Initially, the kid came to IN as essentially just a sponsored African exchange student soccer player. He’d barely picked up a basketball in his life but people saw the obvious with his height, elite athleticism etc and the chance to better his overall life as money is non-existent. Most everyone thought he could maybe develop into a small to low mid-major player in-time. That all changed when he picked up the game so quickly, excellent footwork, good hands etc. Well keep in mind, his Congo family sent him to the US to be cared for and trusted by an exchange student program that helps kids get an improved overall life and education via basketball/sports. Everyone who inquired knew of said plan including folks in the Congo who were happy with the plan in place for the kid as they wanted to make sure he was cared for properly by trusted individuals.

Then suddenly the kid picks up basketball insanely fast and dominated the NBA camp. Now all of a sudden the elite schools are like wow. Dig into things and some think there could be a crack of a chance with some key people now that the kid has a chance to play at the very highest of programs not only college but the NBA.

I used to go to King’s Island as a kid, fun times.


So, in short, Kokomo coach and/or host family...
by Freight Train  (2023-03-26 17:46:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

will be allowed by his Congolese parents to steer him to a very limited list of schools with whom the coach or parents have some sort of established relationship?

For instance, if the coach or parents know the Ball State coach well, then Ball State is on the list?

Just trying to understand how anyone gets on the approved list.


The kid has a relationship with one of the assistants at
by Jeash  (2023-03-26 19:16:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Cincy. If Shrewsberry wants to get in the mix, he needs to hire that assistant away from Cincinnati.


Thanks. Appreciate the plain English. *
by Freight Train  (2023-03-26 21:03:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Well
by CrazyMary  (2023-03-26 18:57:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Read the final paragraph in my response to Jimbo. That should help.


All eyes get drawn to Bidunga.
by Kali4niaND  (2023-03-25 22:20:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But once we know who Burton is, it helps. He's pretty good too. Now, back to Bidunga. Get to work Micah!


Bidunga = Shawn Kempesque *
by wiNDycityfan  (2023-03-25 22:06:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Hopefully only an on-court comparison *
by NDBass  (2023-03-26 09:51:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


How tall is Burton? Is he #40? *
by irishhawk49  (2023-03-25 20:53:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Burton is in white
by Chicos bail bonds  (2023-03-25 21:03:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Burton is a lead guard...#3. I love his attack mentality and ability to fi ish


Completely agree. Great finisher and scorer mentality. *
by Irishdog80  (2023-03-25 22:48:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


#40 is Bidunga - top 5 in class of 2024; #3 is Burton
by Raoul  (2023-03-25 20:58:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think 5'10". Very good in the paint for a little guy. As we have seen in the NCAA, small PGs can be very effective on both O and D.


Thanks. *
by irishhawk49  (2023-03-25 22:08:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


So, who won the game? *
by Dennis  (2023-03-25 20:37:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kokomo (not Penn / Burton)....I think championship is this
by Raoul  (2023-03-25 20:43:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

weekend. Interesting to see if we end up recruiting Kokomo's star (everyone wants him - strong down low as one can see).


There are thirty D1 coaches sitting court side watching
by Jeash  (2023-03-25 21:04:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Flory play in the state championship.


Hopefully he looks beyond Cincy. *
by Raoul  (2023-03-25 21:21:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kokomo vs 31-0 Indy Ben Davis right now *
by Chicos bail bonds  (2023-03-25 20:50:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kokomo 58, Penn 57 *
by Kayo  (2023-03-25 20:47:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post