Are you in favor of completely repealing the Jones Act? *
by G.K.Chesterton (2024-01-30 23:51:00)

In reply to: Because of the Jones Act there is no such thing as  posted by Raoul

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Yup, ity's one of the last remnanys of featherbedding
by SixShutouts66  (2024-01-31 23:33:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

TThe Jones Act specifies that ships carrying cargo between two American ports must:
1) be built in the United States,
2) be 75 percent owned by U.S. citizens,
3) be 75 percent manned by a U.S. citizen crew, and
4) fly the U.S. flag.

The linked article states that about 100 ships are compliant with the Act and little commercial ship building still exists in the US and raises the cost of interstate shipping.

Ensenada, Mexico exists as a cruise ship stopover point from California to Hawaii - making it an international trip
We wanted to maintain a ship building industry
by AquinasDomer  (2024-02-01 09:17:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Without spending money to subsidize one. So we don't have an industry and we sabotage the rest of our our economy.

Victoria BC serves same purpose for Alaska cruises *
by El Kabong  (2024-02-01 08:03:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

For LNG shipping I would as that is a very specific form
by Raoul  (2024-01-31 09:00:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

of shipping. But I would hesitate to make a broader conclusion about the Jones Act based solely on its appropriateness for LNG. There are probably reasonable arguments for and against in more generic shipping services.

The craziness w/r/t natural gas was actually displayed with a ruling this week concluding that transporting natural gas feedstock from the US to Mexico via pipeline for subsequent liquifaction in Mexico and then back to the US (Puerto Rico in this case) on non-US flag carriers would not violate the Jones Act. A company wants to do this and will now be allowed. But they can't pipe it to Louisiana and then ship to PR due to Jones Act and fact that there are no Jones Act compliant LNG shipping vessels.