I don't really care about the Sisi/Mexico thing, at the
by krudler (2024-02-09 12:09:09)

In reply to: I'd make a sports comparison  posted by AquinasDomer

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time I understood the point he was making and didn't really thing twice about it. I can see how some of the talking heads will make an issue of it but I didn't think that one was a big deal. What concerns me more is the things like we hear in the Hur report (not sure why Hur would make any of that up), his misremembering of basic facts ("my son died in Iraq"), his ever-changing stories of static historical events, falling asleep at world events, putting a lid on his day extremely early, his constant battles with the teleprompter, the random trailing off and non-sequiturs, and the great lengths his staff takes to hide him from the public (which again indicates to me that they don't trust him).

Look, you're a doctor so your opinion carries weight here, but neither of us are shrinks or spend any time with Biden to be able to render a fully informed judgment on this. I've just seen people first hand at the early stages of senility/dementia, and this report caught my eye when it's put in the context of some of his public issues. I'm open to the fact that I could be totally off here.

If he had dementia/alzheimers
by AquinasDomer  (2024-02-09 12:22:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

He would have a horrible gaffe where he just gets everything wrong. Start talking about Ariel Sharon and complaining that all the Arab countries invaded Israel on Yom Kippur. Forget Mexico borders us. Something like that. They tend to be massive lapses.

People with age related slowing tend to be self aware at some level. The anger over losing the car gets exacerbated because at some level they know they're declining.

People with alzheimers/Dementia tend to be blissfully unaware. You usually bring them in w a family member and do the test Trump brags about passing. They miss some huge things. Not knowing the year, no short term recall, thinking a wife or a dead kid are still alive.

I'd also note Kevin McCarthy said Biden was sharp during budget negotiations. The attorney who created the report is a Republican. His conclusions were about the most damaging thing you could hit Biden with if you didn't think you could prosecute the case.

But again, Biden has to put up or shut up. Either he pulls off a successful campaign or he flounders. If he flounders he has close advisors/family members who I think would tell him to hang it up. To me, watching the press conference I see an old dude who's with it and spitting mad. When I watch Trump talk for more than a minute I think the guy can't hold a coherent thought together but that's just me.
He was relating conversations he had with Helmut Kohl
by 88_92WSND  (2024-02-09 13:32:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Conversations he claimed to have in 2021, talking about January 6th. He was explicit about when and where he had the conversation. He told the story at two separate events on the same evening. The problem is, Kohl has been dead for over a decade. He was mixing up
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Biden also confused Mitterand and Macron, claiming to have spoken with the former a quarter century after the French president's death.
Neither look anything alike.
These three stuttering incidents took place three days apart.
Reminds me of the Nate Bargatze joke
by gregmorrissey  (2024-02-09 14:21:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Is what you're referring to early/mid/late stage
by krudler  (2024-02-09 12:49:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

dementia/alzheimers? I guess what I'm getting at is aren't there different stages of this, and early on it's very inconsistent and might be harder to pick up on given we rarely see him and he's rarely allowed to go off the teleprompter? I ask not to be difficult, but because I do not know and from what I've personally experienced it seems to snowball rather than a cliff-type progression.

You'd see it in personal conversations
by AquinasDomer  (2024-02-09 14:25:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

A number of Republicans have grudgingly acknowleged he's still annoyingly with it. You'd also see it more in Q and A.

Even early alzheimers people have some totally off the rails moments.

Age related slowing can get bad enough where you can't be POTUS but you can be pretty functional. I don't think Biden's there but he could be in 4 years. That's why I wish he'd have opened the primary up a year ago.

I just think from both a personal mental competence and advisor perspective he runs circles around Trump. I wish the Republicans would nominate Whaley or someone who'd beat him. I'd dislike their politics, but I'd prefer we set a higher floor for the country.

Alas that's not the world we live in.