The better question is whether it is time for Byrne
by RagingBull (2019-06-02 12:08:40)

In reply to: Kevin Corrigan should be fired.  posted by Porpoiseboy


to take over. I have been watching Inside Lacrosse fearing that I'll read that Byrne has been hired at Harvard. He is from Boston and Pierre has graduated. Byrne has to be the A1 top choice for a number of schools. To address the point below - we may have our elite coach already on the sidelines.

As for Corrigan, I played for him and respect him. We still keep in touch so I am biased.
His gift is in recruiting and his complete confidence in getting players who fit his system. Though the depth is far greater now, he still attracts a certain kind of student-athlete who will succeed post-college. The use of #40 in honor of Mike Sennett resonates with the lacrosse alums. The ND lacrosse network is incredible. Corrigan is tough on his players, awkward to talk to, and panics in big game situations (Kessinch - who is one of the biggest ND fans in the broadcast booth and who is annoying but on the money 98% of the time - called it in regulation versus Duke) but would defend his players to the death (in contrast to Kelly) and does a phenomenal maintaining player engagement.

I do not think we should treat Corrigan as a tenured professor who should never be fired. But replacing him now in light of the current state of the program would be absurd. Bringing in someone else to instill a new culture would be devastating. Look at Georgetown for reference to a program that was supposed to be the Duke.

The quandary would be if Byrne was ready to walk. I think there would have to be a serious conversation with Corrigan as to whether it was time to pass on the torch. The culture would remain and we'd keep one of ND's greatest assets.

Firing Corrigan because of a loss to Duke would be comically stupid. My question to those calling for it is what happens to their lives on Tuesday if ND did run the table this year? Would their lives be infinitely better? Would they strut around their offices obnoxiously singing the fight song? Would they break out their Joe Montana jersey to celebrate? What is that they are losing by not witnessing an ND championship?

I have never understood the entitlement that those with an ND degree - or whose affiliation stems from their Uncle Tommy graduating in 1982 - feel.

Keep Byrne first. Keep Corrigan second. If both bolt, get Matt Karwick if you can't get Toomey from Loyola (who is unlikely to leave his alma mater).







I think Byrne's wife is a Doc at the Hospital.
by Jmac76  (2019-06-03 16:11:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Big job too.


Man...
by Porpoiseboy  (2019-06-02 12:57:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I could not have hoped for any posts this good when I started the thread. Much thanks!


Thank you for pushing the conversation.
by RagingBull  (2019-06-02 13:30:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I've been sitting on this one for a while and thought it's time has passed. I think the conversation goes beyond lacrosse and into how treat and view other sports. McGraw is the gold standard. You're right about Jackson. Awesome coach who may not win a title. It's frustrating but he's phenomenal.

As for Kelly, I have a different harsher view. It's a business. There is real money for everyone involved. He should he held to the highest standard on the field. It doesn't help that he's a colossal dick.


Is your Kelly comment based on...
by okerland  (2019-06-04 18:40:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

talking to your fellow athlete alums or based on what you see on TV?


I think...
by Porpoiseboy  (2019-06-02 14:56:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

you, Wolfetone, and I all agree Kelly is the Mold Standard.


Amen brother... *
by Wolfetone  (2019-06-03 08:16:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post