If this is the explanation for why younger children seem
by Tex Francisco (2020-08-07 11:45:43)

In reply to: Definitely significant if true. Not new though  posted by bengalbout


to fight off the virus relatively easily, wouldn't it likely follow that parents of small children and teachers of small children would also be well positioned, given that parents and teachers are also more likely to be exposed to other corona viruses through the kids?


Doesn't really matter. It is now vaccine or bust for a good
by Steelhop  (2020-08-07 11:51:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Segment of the population. That segment is large enough that they are the ones driving how decisions are being made.


Maybe if the rest of the population would wear masks and
by No Right Turn on Red  (2020-08-07 12:31:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

practice proper social distancing instead of pursuing selfish actions, we wouldn't need to wait for a vaccine. You know, sort of like how the rest of the world is managing re-opening right now even without a vaccine.


True story.
by mocopdx  (2020-08-07 12:45:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Oregon, since Gov Brown instituted the mask rule statewide, has seen our graph level off and our new cases are the same as they were in the two weeks prior to the mask rule. To be clear, "the same" is a good thing, not an indictment. With reopening you should expect an exponential rise, not a level off. We didn't close anything the last two weeks, we just required masks everywhere.


Going east of 82nd is rough though
by ravenium  (2020-08-07 13:03:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There was an interesting article on housing density, economic hardship, and covid the other day. I tend to forget that Portland still continues for nearly another 100 blocks.


I read that, interesting indeed.
by mocopdx  (2020-08-07 13:34:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I actually make it out past 82nd quite a bit- lots of good road biking out there. It's pretty crazy how quickly it shifts to looking poor, for lack of a better term. There is a decent amount of good food out there. Really good carts in spots.


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by ewillND  (2020-08-07 12:01:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I don't mean to imply a vaccine or bust is solely a teacher
by Steelhop  (2020-08-07 13:44:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

issue. I've seen just as many parents comments (not here but elsewhere) say that they wouldn't send their kids to school or do anything without a vaccine. I guess you could infer my comment was about teachers but I wasn't even thinking about schools just everything when I wrote it. My comment that fear (which I am not arguing per se against) has driven a portion of the population to hysterics beyond some level of common sense.

Not to be nudge about it but the Canadian health minister stated the other day that even with a vaccine they would likely require masks and social distancing for years after the vaccine is implemented. That type of comment tends to be really counter productive in my view.


I actually think continuing to promote mask wearing
by No Right Turn on Red  (2020-08-07 14:14:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

beyond the pandemic is a good thing. Maybe not en masse, but in certain situations (high flu/cold season), when you're sick, visiting people in the hospital, airports, etc., where it will make sense to continue to wear masks.

That coupled with comprehensive sick leave policies would be helpful.


I'd imagine you will see more mask wearing in cold and
by Steelhop  (2020-08-07 14:33:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

flu season and in hospitals and the like. I think a blanket edict seems a bit too much.


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by fourputtmd  (2020-08-07 12:04:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post