In reply to: Strictly my opinion, but . . . posted by tf86
I don't notice a difference between their current logo and the logo from their days in Baltimore. Any changes have been subtle, at best. And IIRC, franchise records include their days in Baltimore.
I believe the City of Cleveland sued and won to retain the rights to the Browns name which is why when Art Modell moved the franchise to Baltimore he couldn't use the Browns name --- and also couldn't use the Colts (or Stallions as JT points out) because the Irsay's owned the trademark as it relates to professional football teams in the Baltimore area and would have sued.
like Stallions, for example.
I hope no bad people show up.
from franchise history stuff?
When Modell moved the Cleveland franchise to Baltimore, the league decided to say that the Browns had suspended operations and the records, name, etc. would remain in Cleveland. Meanwhile, Modell was allowed to take the team personnel, equipment, etc. with him to Baltimore to form an "expansion" team.
The Browns were in limbo for a couple years and then reformed. They weren't technically considered an expansion team, but they were restocked via an expansion draft.
Pretty sure they were trying to avoid a repeat the fiasco of the Colts move to Indy and the uproar that took place among fans and former players.
I thought that part of the Browns/Ravens settlement was that the Browns franchise retained the rights to franchise records.
Either way, I'm not sure of the relevance to the possibility of the Mountain West renaming itself as the Pac if the Pac dissolves. I don't think any former Pac member schools have exclusive rights to the Pac-8/10/12 name.
of the various states and if they want to renew the name when needed.
For example, I happen to own the business name "SMAP Financial Services" in several states, even though I don't use it and haven't for years. That prohibits anyone else who might be interested in registering under that name from using it, even if I'm not.
Not the individual Secretaries of State. As for the Pac 10 name, it would be interesting. The Catholic schools of the Big East sued and won the right to retain the trademark rights for the Big East name.
As for SMAP Financial Services, you have an obligation to defend the trademark as well. For example, if you are SMAP Financial Services, LLC, then I assume that the Secretary of State will not reject a filing for a corporation named SMAP Financial Services, Inc. But, if you have filed and been awarded a trademark from the USPTO then you could sue them to enforce your trademark rights and have them change their name. But, this only applies to the same or closely related industries. If SMAP Financial Services, Inc. is actually a t-shirt company then they would probably win the trademark case and be able to keep operating under that name (as nonsensical as that name would be for a t-shirt company).
either way, I cannot imagine the Pac 12 giving up their rights to the conference name with a significant amount of compensation.
schools? Even if it's only like two schools, through the commissioner acting as their executive acting at their discretion, they could negotiate a deal with the Mountain West or the West Coast Conference or whatever takers they have to merge assets and retain the Pac # name. The remaining schools would have an incentive to do this because the Pac 12's brand power is greater than whatever conference they would merge with.
If all Pac 12 teams bolted, I assume the organization would dissolve as there'd be no income to pay for administrative staff. With no one to use intellectual property to keep its protection, given its substantial intellectual property at issue that would be up for grabs, I'd guess a receiver would be appointed to deal with the assets. And there's a decent chance a pacific coast conference would be interested in picking this up. Which is why the remaining Pac 12 teams should want to try to leverage that early on rather than bolt for a lesser conference.
I thought I had made that point; my assertion is that someone can't just look and say, "hey, no conference anymore, we can just take that name!"