what are we talking about here?
by jt (2018-04-14 12:36:37)

In reply to: what that guy did has nothing to do with the game of footbal  posted by irishrock


I thought I was referring to Navy's use of the cut block (which is still legal, by the way).

Is there a particular play or player that you're referring to?

Yes, I do think that cheap shots happen in football games. I also don't think cut blocking is a cheap shot, in and of itself. I also think that a fundamentally sound defensive team can defeat cut blocks relatively easily.


Check the link in the post you replied to. *
by Smokin_Clover  (2018-04-14 13:38:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


that was a dumb play to link
by jt  (2018-04-14 14:58:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

that type of block has been illegal pretty much forever.


I was using it as an......
by guilfordnd  (2018-04-15 10:55:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Exaggerated example. No shit that play is illegal. It’s called sarcasm.


how would you propose that the rules committee deals
by jt  (2018-04-15 11:01:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

with that play?

Declare that it is now "SUPER illegal" and access another penalty?

Cut blocking is not some unfair advantage or anything silly like that.


The punishment for it would be...
by guilfordnd  (2018-04-15 11:52:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Having to spend a day with you.


I can see how that would be a problem for you
by jt  (2018-04-15 14:33:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I tend to not get along well with whiners.


read the guy's post and watch the youtube
by irishrock  (2018-04-14 13:34:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

it was the Blaton hit...I don't think any football guy could condone it (except for Jeff City's coach who would pull shit like that in high school...hoping for a response so the responder would get kicked out of the game)


that's not a cut block, that's a clip
by jt  (2018-04-14 14:58:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and yeah, that's still illegal.

I'm not in favor of making that a legal block. I would say that for the most part when the fanboys whine about playing Navy (it's their Super Bowl, we can't play them over midterms, we can't play them after or before a tough game, their style is so hard to prepare for, the veer!, cut blocks) they're not referring to clips like the one posted (which is an obvious foul) but rather the OL firing off at our DL's knees/ankles to try and cut block (which is legal).

The only issue I have with cut blocks is when it comes from the side, at least a whole man over (not from a shade). That should be illegal and is very dangerous, IMO.


How is that a clip?
by vitadulcedospes  (2018-04-15 07:10:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The contact is not from behind.


My only criticism of Navy is the type of mindset that
by irishrock  (2018-04-14 19:29:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

makes that play okay in their coaches minds. Like I said, I'd be embarrassed if that was a player of mine or my son.


I don't think that play is okay in their coaches minds
by jt  (2018-04-14 21:51:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think that is and pretty much has been for years a dirty block. I would imagine that they would acknowledge that. I honestly don't recall too many of those types of illegal blocks over the years. I might be mistaken. If we find that they do that shit all the time and they haven't been disciplined and we keep them on the schedule, truthfully that's on us.

Now, do they fire off and cut in the clipping zone (legal)? Yes. Does your defense need to be ready for that? Absolutely. Should a fundamentally sound defense stop that type of block with relative ease? Yes.