It’s the same offense. Two teams can run the same
by SEE (2019-03-25 08:28:40)
Edited on 2019-03-25 08:33:38

In reply to: Then it's not the same offense *  posted by El Kabong


Offense with different emphasis, gameplans.

By your definition, no two offenses are the same - Clemson “changed offenses” from year to year (Even though they ran the same offense). Continuing, if you use your definition then no team would run the same offense week to week.




Good holy grief *
by Jvan  (2019-03-26 22:49:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


When the 'emphasis' is more than game-to-game...
by El Kabong  (2019-03-25 10:08:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...then it isn't the same offense.

If it were the same offense, then Swinney, overall, would put as much responsibility on his QB that Kelly does. He does not, so it is not.


I think you need to define your definition of offense. Base
by SEE  (2019-03-25 12:30:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

scheme is how it’s usually defined. We have the same base scheme as Clemson.

All enlightenment starts with a definition of terms.


Do you mean that both teams utilize the shotgun?
by Mark_It_Zero  (2019-03-25 14:16:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

What makes you think that they have the same base offense besides that both teams run most of their plays with the QB in shotgun?


How do you define the "base scheme" in question? *
by El Kabong  (2019-03-25 13:38:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I must be misunderstanding you.
by harmonica  (2019-03-25 12:55:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is your position that all spread offenses are the same?


what a load of utter crap *
by ACross  (2019-03-25 12:49:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You are good, you *
by SEE  (2019-03-25 12:54:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kelly's offense is a unique, mutant, ugly beast
by ACross  (2019-03-25 08:59:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

His system's design and approach is not the same as any other design and approach


Can you eschew the Trumpian ine-liners and tell us how
by SEE  (2019-03-25 12:26:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Specifically?

This will be like Donald explaining the circles of healthcare.


We need more fullbacks and student body right.
by smithwick  (2019-03-25 14:17:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

How cool was it when Shaw got stuffed for the 100th time in a row on 4th and 1 but used 7 offensive lineman? His offense ranked 123rd in the country, but his kids play tough, power football like we used to under Holtz.

Or that time Harbaugh lined up in a 10-man I-formation? Manball. BK could take a page out of Jim's book, right?


Great point, smithwick!
by ACross  (2019-03-25 14:23:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The two of you together - a real brain trust. 10 total watts.


So Trumpian, its scary. I await a little marco reference *
by SEE  (2019-03-25 17:51:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Ha you're such a dork. *
by smithwick  (2019-03-25 14:24:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


whereas you hip hop dance at the Linebacker *
by ACross  (2019-03-25 16:43:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It's a matter of developed record discussed for about 9 year
by ACross  (2019-03-25 13:56:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You can make believe the discussions never happened, or that the games and seasons were never played, or watched, or dissected, and that the aroma has wafted away. We know the differences between the offenses.


Thats actually a worse answer than the circles. Embarrassing
by SEE  (2019-03-25 22:49:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Begging of the question. Whom does this work on?


Across has been right about Kelly's offense from Day 1.
by daviehamsufferer97  (2019-03-25 13:01:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Whereas you have been wildly inconsistent, and claiming you're right while simultaneously changing your mind on everything. I'd understand if you had a jt level of knowledge of the game, but you are wrong about nearly everything when you make predictions.


That swings both ways. People also said we would be lucky
by athlete37  (2019-03-25 19:13:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to win 8 games the last two years


And those people would be right *
by TAR  (2019-03-26 08:27:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Good grief *
by athlete37  (2019-03-26 18:12:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Clemson has 5-star players. Notre Dame doesn't. *
by Wolfetone  (2019-03-25 08:36:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The frosh WR that killed us (and 'Bama) was a 4*. *
by ndroman21  (2019-03-25 08:46:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


A 5* is defined as someone ready to play and star as a
by 84david  (2019-03-26 15:05:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

freshman.

He's a 5-star.


Several Clemson offensive players are 5-star... *
by Wolfetone  (2019-03-25 09:38:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Lawrence, most notably.
by ndroman21  (2019-03-25 13:12:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm just saying that 4-stars can perform too if they're coached well.


I would love a couple of Top 50 backs/wideouts.....
by Wolfetone  (2019-03-25 17:46:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That seems out of our reach with The 3-Star General.


And a 5-star coach. *
by SorinBasement  (2019-03-25 08:41:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post