There are only 2 possible good wins left for nd...usc and VA.

VA won't have any quality wins if they lose to ND, but could get to the ACC champ game. What would a VA team with 2 losses(with at least one being ugly) and no quality wins be ranked? High enough to help ND?

USC on the other hand could land really high...or with 4 or so losses.

they do. Good wins are by definition only against traditionally elite teams. The media never considers a win over a one off team to be of any consequence when ND is involved.

Once UVa loses to ND, they will cease to be considered a good team and if they play Clemson and lose by 57 to them it will do even more to point out that they simply are the best of the remaining shit pile that exists in the ACC after Clemson.

ACC plays an 8-game conference schedule, with 6/8 conference games in division. One interdivision game is protected every year for every team. So there's only one rotating interdivision game every year. UVa already played Florida State, so that was it for them.

I think that's what the previous poster was implying with "If they play Clemson..."

Virginia -- Even if they went 11-1, they'd have no wins over ranked teams. I suspect they might trip up against Duke, UNC, or Va Tech. But regardless, this is not a potential win to hang our hat on.

BGSU -- Again, we need to hang 100 on BVG. But this game doesn't mean shit.

USC -- Actually stands a decent chance of being a good win. They're 3-1, with a loss to a decent BYU team on the road, and a win over a good Utah team. Maybe we'll know more after the UW game this week?

Michigan -- Hot garbage. Should have lost to Army at home, killed by Wisconsin on the road. Could easily have two more losses by the time we play them (Iowa, PSU). Could very easily end up 6-6 this year.

Va Tech -- Hotter garbage. Lost to BC in week one, totally uninspiring against some dogshit programs in their week 2 and 3 games. Could have four losses by the time we play them. Unlikely to be above .500 at year's end.

Duke -- Don't know enough about them yet, but will never be a win to hang our hat on. Might be a decent team though. Lost 42-3 to Bama, beat Middle Tennessee more impressively than Michigan did. I'd guess in the 8-4 range.

Navy -- Not enough evidence to know what kind of Navy we'll see this year, but even good Navy will never be an impressive win. They're 2-0, and start playing real teams this week. Could range from garbage to Duke-level.

BC -- At best they go 9-3, at worst probably 6-6. But... Kansas. Nobody will give a shit about a win over BC for that game alone, no matter what they do the rest of the year.

Stanford -- On the path to an absolute dumpster fire. 1-3, with an uninspiring win over Northwestern, and three games of getting their shit handed to them by USC, UCF, and Oregon. They're clearly not a top 25 team, and will likely have at least 3 more losses by the time we play them (UW, WSU, Cal).

It's awful to "rely" on teams like VT or VA.

It's also awful to sit here after 3 games and KNOW that there are only possibly 2 games left that "could" be big games...but also KNOW that 4 of them are loseable.