I don't see tons of difference between Kelly/Weis/Davie

I don't see tons of difference between Kelly/Weis/Davie
by irishrock (2019-10-27 10:57:15)

Willingham was the worst...get that out of the way right now.

But Weis and Davie played tougher schedules than Kelly. Weis had a tough SC with Carroll to contend with. Davie (embarrassed to say this) had a decent Purdue to deal with along with Stanford doing well.

Kelly has had a 10 year run where SC and Michigan have been down. He's 3-4 against a mediocre Michigan program and he's 7-3 against SC (which have had a Kiffin fired and Helton getting ready to be fired)

Kelly has done better in the games where he has a clear talent advantage. I've yet to see him outcoach and win a game that he shouldn't have. I've yet to see him win a game where the other team had more talent and ND gutted out a win.

The only coach I've seen at ND who could not recruit was Willingham. And that was a commitment issue...he didn't care

Replies:

Kelly is a significantly better coach than Weis was - NDAtty 2019-10-27 14:12:55
- "significantly" is a very strong word here - irishrock 2019-10-27 14:34:51
  - I don't think so - NDAtty 2019-10-27 14:58:33
Weis had a higher ceiling -- and a lower floor. We could - btd 2019-10-27 11:16:24
- I disagree - NDAtty 2019-10-27 14:15:20
I think beating the unranked teams is “tons of difference” - Father Nieuwland 2019-10-27 11:14:38
- Its all about the ceiling -- not the average - btd 2019-10-27 11:25:17
Davie had a good Michigan team too - DBCooper 2019-10-27 11:08:32
I have been right there for years. - skeptic 2019-10-27 11:04:04
Kelly doesn’t care too much about recruiting either. - Brahms 2019-10-27 11:02:43
Maybe Oklahoma on the road in 2012 - Camarillo Brillo 2019-10-27 11:02:34
- Weis recruited players provided talent/leadership in '12 - irishrock 2019-10-27 11:31:44
- But bowl eligible at 8-4. Good enough. Swardick couldn’t - inigomontoya 2019-10-27 11:13:31
- If one big win (now vacated) is the standard... - skeptic 2019-10-27 11:11:31