Has the Orange ever hosted a non-top 25 team that didn't win their conference?

Have they ever hosted a non-top 25 team?

when Virginia beats Clemson and all hell breaks loose.

a few weeks ago. Wake Forest actually stood a much better chance of making the Orange Bowl by losing to Clemson than by beating them.

At the time, Wake Forest was 7-2 with both losses coming in conference games. If WF had beaten Clemson, then Clemson would presumably be knocked out of the CFP race but still would have won their division with only 1 loss, and would then go to the Orange Bowl after beating UVA in the title game. Assuming a Utah win over Oregon in tomorrow night's game, WF would probably need to be ranked #10 to make a NY6 bowl, which is doubtful.

But by losing that game, all WF had to do was win their last 2 games to finish 9-3, which would have probably landed them in the top 25, ahead of the eventual ACC title game loser who will probably finish unranked at 9-4. As it turned out, Wake lost their final game in overtime to Syracuse. But had they finished 9-3, I think they would have gone to the Orange Bowl.

It needs to say ACC winner or if the ACC winner is in CFP it's the highest ranked ACC team including NOtre Dame.

Or we can walk away from 5 games a year with those assholes.

Seems generous - that’s where I’d put the spread of we we’re playing Clemson

LSU and Ohio State need to lose. It's not impossible to envision a scenario of (1) undefeated Clemson, (2) SEC champ UGA, (3) 1-loss Ohio State, (4) 1-loss LSU, (5 and 6) Pac 12 Champ Utah and Big 12 Champ OU/Baylor. That would probably be the correct ranking for those 6 teams, but it'd be a nightmare scenario having two out of the top four getting in after losing their conference championship games.

even if they lose.