Presumably there’s either no or negligible game-day revenue for a 2020 home game vs Navy. What do you think game day revenue is for a normal home game vs Navy? $6 mil? $8 mil? $10 mil? How many tickets do we actually sell to that game? 60k? 65k? Even more (I don’t know the ticketing arrangement for students, faculty and staff)? What’s the average price for a sold ticket? $100? $125? And then there’s parking, concessions, swag and so on.

I can’t imagine ND would be keen to play Navy at home this year in lieu of doing so next year.

As it is, Mike Brey is talking about potentially having to bus to Kentucky for a basketball game due to athletic budget pressures.

If pressures are impacting relatively nominal transportation costs like getting a small team to a neighboring state, then I can’t imagine the University will willingly relinquish home football games that may be worth close to $10 million in revenue, perhaps even more.

For securing an 11 game. I doubt it is more costly than playing some #maction in front of an empty stadium.

Either we get a waiver from the ACC and go to Annapolis or they decide to come to ND on a modest-cost arrangement to ND. We now both seem to be open on Sept 12, so that’s a possible date.

Playing in Indy, as previously suggested, works within the ACC guidelines and appears compatible with historic Navy home game format, but makes no sense with a limited crowd, if any.

I don’t see ND giving up a future home game to get Navy to come to ND this season. Doesn’t make financial sense, and the financial considerations have become acute. But, hey, maybe we will.

The MACtion comparison doesn’t really carry here because we don’t play at their places.

it seems like most conferences are looking at 9-26 or later, and I think that they're wise to do so; the more time we give, the more we can prepare and get proper protocols in place, etc.

and am skeptical there should even be one.

The commentary here has been more focused on playing Navy within the ACC guidelines, which could still evolve to a later start date, elimination of the OOC game or reintroduction of out-of-state OOC travel. ND will have been on-campus for 5-6 weeks, so Sept 12 should work for ND. Other schools are starting later, some much later.

If we don’t play Navy early, the likelihood will fall sharply, as it will be challenging to align dates given our 10 ACC games and their 8 AAC + Army + probably AFA. Incidentally, are we a higher-priority opponent for them than AFA? Don’t know.

I suspect it’s more likely that we play WMU than Navy. WMU is only 75 miles away, probably still wants to come even for sharply-reduced economics if the MAC’s paradigm allows and sits within the ACC guidelines. Or maybe we play somebody altogether different because ACC game dates create a schedule clash.

I do not think it will be difficult to find an 11th game for September given all the cancellations. Any MAC schools whose dates align would probably like to come. And there would be others. “Buy-game” economics will have plummeted with so many of the largest FBS programs out of the market and amid altered game-day economics. The traditional recipients will need the money more than ever.

Incidentally, I also do not think we should be lobbying the ACC for a scheduling waiver to be able to go to Annapolis in the immediate aftermath of having signed up for the deal announced this past Wednesday. I agree with Piertravir that makes us look bad and, candidly, the ACC should laugh at us if we press the topic so soon.

Remember, the NBC deal is being included within the ACC revenue this season. NBC will pay more for a 6-game package than for a 5-game package. In all honesty, I think that's at least part of the rationale for the +1 rule for the entire conference.

in Annapolis as presently scheduled.

Fair is fair.

When we play an "away" game against Navy? Yes, I know this year is different, but the question still stands.

I don't think we will have a ton of possible opponents for the 11 game.

If we want to play that game, we are going to give up something.

Maybe NAVY would just play us for few million dollars without any consideration next year.

money aside, do Navy and Notre Dame want to play.

Of course ND could ask for an exception from the ACC, but I doubt if they would grant it as it would open the door for others to ask for the same treatment.

we'll still have 11 games before any bowl games. I agree on the one-off view. These are very unusual times.

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I can see covering Navy’s costs to come to South Bend and maybe paying them another quarter-to-half million on top of that.

I can’t see paying multiple millions to get Navy to come in lieu of giving up a future home game. As it is, most of the rest of the P5 will only be playing ten games, so an 11th game this season shouldn’t be regarded as an entitlement. We certainly shouldn’t spend several million dollars to obtain an 11th game.

Giving up a ‘21 home game to get Navy to come to Rock’s House this year wouldn’t be terribly different to having Toledo — hey, it’s a short drive — offer to come play in our empty stadium this year in exchange for moving our home game next year to the Glass Bowl or Cleveland. We wouldn’t even consider that. Of course, there’s far more history to the Navy series .....

I believe that some of the P5 conferences have given up their home-weighted non-conference schedules so willingly more because they don’t want to pay “buy-game” guarantees in empty stadia than out of putting health concerns and consistent protocols first-and-foremost.