I seriously doubt the SEC wants the WHOLE ACC, at least
by VaDblDmr (2021-07-31 16:19:33)
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for football. I can't see the SEC having any interest in Syracuse, BC, Wake Forest, or Duke football. And if I were Louisville, Georgia Tech, or Pitt, I'd also be looking over my shoulder.

That leaves Clemson, FSU, Miami, Va Tech, NC State, UNC, and maybe UVA. Maybe they would throw in Ga Tech to make it a majority so that the conference could presumably be dissolved, which might make the grant of rights issue easier to dispense with.

If this were to happen, then it makes intuitive sense that the B1G would also expand to 24. To do that, they would add:
USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Iowa State, University of Arizona, Stanford, Cal, Colorado, and Utah. The three non-AAU Pac-12 members (ASU, Washington State, Oregon State) get cut.

That would leave two "conferences" of 24 schools each with ND and BYU independent and making it 50 in all.

Maybe, but Florida won’t want FSU or Miami. Georgia won’t
by 1978Irish  (2021-08-02 16:33:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

want Georgia Tech. South Carolina won’t want Clemson. They might tell SC to shut up and take it, but Georgia and Florida have a lot of pull in the conference.

It will be interesting to see if basketball has any effect
by NDAtty  (2021-08-02 10:27:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Will Duke and Kansas basketball do anything for the schools in conference realignment? I'm guessing not.

I don't think that getting into an expanded super-conference/SEC would be any good for Duke football anyway. They are struggling in the ACC coastal. What are they going to do in a super-SEC? Lose I guess. In the ACC coastal, it looks like they had a bit of success in 2013-14 and perhaps could hope to have some winning conference records again. Hard to see how they'd have any hope of that in a super-conference.

Duke isn't unique in that regard. Clemson would be competitive. FSU might be able to get back into things. I'm not sure about Miami in the changing landscape. Va Tech if the stars align? UNC?
The Big East screwed up in the early 90s
by fontoknow  (2021-08-01 18:43:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

They should have invited Penn State before the Big 10 gobbled them up.

Misplayed cards in the early 90s created oath dependencies.
Earlier than that
by tf86  (2021-08-02 21:30:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

1982 is the year Penn State came up for a membership vote in the Big East. The Big East actually voted 5-3 in favor of admitting Penn State, but a 2/3 vote for admission was required, so it failed.

Because of the secrecy of the vote, we'll never know how/why that happened, but a few theories have surfaced. It's been rumored that Boeheim didn't want Penn State in the Big East. OTOH, it's also been rumored that the three dissenting votes were cast by Georgetown, Villanova and St. John's. Not defending Boeheim, but I think the latter possibility is more plausible -- those schools likely would have seen Penn State as less institutionally/athletically compatible, perhaps irreconcilably so.

In any event, this spawned Mike Tranghese's memorable comment that "We will rue the day" when we denied Penn State admission. It took 30 years to completely come true, but Tranghese certainly was right.

Hard to imagine how different the landscape would look today if the Big East had taken Penn State back then. I don't think the Big East would have added football immediately, but it would have happened sooner than it did. And a Big East with Penn State certainly would have been a stronger football conference than a pre-Florida State ACC.