Keon Keeley would have really changed the outlook here
by irishaddict (2022-11-28 14:22:26)
Edited on 2022-11-28 14:29:11

In reply to: Roster assessment - defense  posted by Jvan


ND really needs one of Aiden G or Josh Burnham to hit. I have also heard that they might try out Junior T as a Vyper also.


For what it's worth
by buffaloirish  (2022-11-28 14:33:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I heard someone (in a position to know) mention last week that Keeley's senior season has not been as spectacular as some anticipated. In particular, that he has not been the physical force that everyone saw earlier in his HS career, and that several coaching staffs (including ND's) have cooled on him. I have not seen the kid play, but it was mentioned that opponents have been running directly at him to neutralize his speed and exploit his (lack of) physicality this year.

Of course, there many explanations (sour grapes from coaching staffs who did not prevail in the chase for his commitment, Keeley taking his foot off the gas with his future secured, opposing coaches scheming against him, etc.).


For what it’s worth, also by Buffalo (link)
by Moff  (2022-11-28 16:59:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


they said the same thing about Derrick Thomas
by irishrock  (2022-11-28 15:29:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Buffalo ran at him on every single play one time and he got exposed...but when it was 3rd and 8 or longer...everybody was focused on him.

(I'd love for Keeley to come to ND and figure it out)


Hopefully Bama and OSU cool on him.
by irishaddict  (2022-11-28 14:39:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Even if he isn't the top-10 national prospect, he still would have to be the best pass-rushing prospect that ND has signed since Aaron Lynch.


He just visited Bama last weekend
by DBCooper  (2022-11-28 15:25:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And FWIW even the OSU recruit analyst at 247 predicts Bama


Heard that about Junior
by Jvan  (2022-11-28 14:32:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He seems too stiff for the position. A great pass rusher needs to be flexible. Even Foskey wasn’t ideal.


I always thought that about
by Twinkie the Kid  (2022-11-28 15:08:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Ishaq Williams.

He was highly touted out of high school, but from what I could tell with my untrained eye, he played a bit stiff. I wonder if he could've eaten his way into a SDE under Diaco's 3-4 scheme (though it would've been hard to overtake Tuitt as a starter).


Yeah, it was more true about Ishaq
by Jvan  (2022-11-28 15:25:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If only he could have had a career like Foskey’s.


Good point. What % of time did they have Foskey stand up?
by irishaddict  (2022-11-28 14:37:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I have not charted it by any means, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was almost 50% of the time. Based on how they have recruited the position, I wonder if they want to have the Vyper play more like a 3-4 outside LB than a traditional DE anyways. Goes to your point regarding size of the prospects in the pipeline that have yet to see the field.