Will they discuss the fake classes?
by GoldCoastIrish (2023-01-27 12:25:16)

In reply to: Long article in the coming Sunday NYT  posted by crazychester


That should've gotten them dis-accredited?


One of the most obvious examples of NCAA ineptitude
by Ty Webb  (2023-01-27 20:15:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

They sure as shit weren't going to get NIL right either.


Thst wasn't really the ncaa's fault.
by KeoughCharles05  (2023-01-28 15:27:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The main issue was with SACS.

There's no way North Carolina should have kept their accreditation.


Agreed, but...
by El Kabong  (2023-01-28 20:24:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...there wasn't a chance in hell SACS was going to disenfranchise a state's top-tier university. It simply wasn't going to happen.

The NCAA pussed out by not punishing the Tar Heel basketball team.


It wasn't just basketball
by KeoughCharles05  (2023-01-29 10:43:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It probably involved every single sports team, because it involved thousands of non athletes as well, over decades.

I sympathize with the NCAA when a university tells them "no, these classes met our academic standards - you're not a judge of academic standards, we are."

The NCAA can't do anything at that point because they are not, in fact, equipped to judge the academic merits of purported classes and coursework.

Perhaps it's true that SACS was never going to do anything, but that just eliminates any credibility or worth they had.

North Carolina is a fraudulent institution. This isn't about athletics or cheating - its that at the core of their mission they have no integrity.


Hey now, that was just good old-fashioned Southern cheatin'.
by BeastOfBourbon  (2023-01-27 14:55:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But this NIL thang, well, they just ain't quite got that one figured out yet.


The SEC skipped the Achudemick's bit
by GoldCoastIrish  (2023-01-27 15:30:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and went straight to the money bit a while ago.

At least UNC tried to make it look somewhat above board.


Not productive or relevant *
by ACross  (2023-01-27 13:36:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I disagree with both
by El Kabong  (2023-01-28 20:23:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The school was 100 percent complicit in this. Either they offered meaningless classes to students or they facilitated athletes' cheating. It has to be one or the other, it can't be neither.


Separate and distinct issues *
by ACross  (2023-01-29 01:27:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Don't rule out the other option. It was likely both. *
by tar  (2023-01-28 21:26:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by KeoughCharles05  (2023-01-28 15:25:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Why do you continually defend North Carolina for their systemic, institutionally approved academic fraud?


I have never, ever defended North Carolina, you moron *
by ACross  (2023-01-29 01:29:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Lies *
by KeoughCharles05  (2023-01-29 12:54:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You whiz
by ACross  (2023-01-29 21:34:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I have no opinion about North Carolina.


He says
by KeoughCharles05  (2023-01-30 17:02:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

weighing in on a subthread about North Carolina.

Doofus.


Yeah that is accurate *
by ACross  (2023-01-30 21:55:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by NDMike2001  (2023-01-27 21:59:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It’s entirely relevant and predictive of the NCAA stance on all of this. Just like the NCAA ruled that it’s not their place to crack down on academic standards, I expect they will (continue to) take a similar approach to NIL and employment issues. They will continue to reap any financial benefits of the sport while continuing to avoid any accountability re standards for student athletes.


I would also add
by jt  (2023-01-27 17:36:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

that Notre Dame doesn't really have the high ground on these sorts of issues anymore. Although we all know that Brian "none, zero, zip, nada" (or whatever that asshole said) isn't to blame.