What's the best approach to overcome umds play
by fontoknow (2018-04-08 14:00:55)

In reply to: The offense was toothless at even strength  posted by Boston Domer


We had no answers in the third. Where there tactics Jackson should have deployed?


As much as anything, the key to winning this game
by wearendhockey  (2018-04-08 19:18:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is scoring first. I'm not being flip, or saying that the game was over 9 minutes in, but it is really huge in today's game and we put ourselves in a hole so many times frankly we may have been "lucky" to be playing the game in the first place.

All those years in the CCHA watching Ferris State burned that notion into my head. If you scored first against those particular Bulldogs we'd almost always win, if we didn't, it seemed like they beat us every time. Two seasons ago this was literally true. They did not win a single game (0-12-2) when the other team scored first. They didn't lose 2/3rds of the games when they did score first.

I might have wanted more set carry-in plays with out best puck handlers, but we have a lot of guys with different skill sets and I don't know to what advantage overall it might have been to double or triple shift some guys at the expense of others. Playing well, our big so-called checking forwards, guys like Brauer, Wegworth and O'Leary, can really bottle up the other team on a forecheck and wear them down, maybe cause an icing and allow you to swap them out for your best three forwards for a faceoff play, or even scoring timely goals of their own. Those guys combined for 14 goals this year. This worked well against Michigan, as we scored 2 or 3 off faceoff plays. Its hard to abandon something that worked well in your previous game, especially since for all but 8 minutes of the game it was tied or we were just one play away from tying it.

Also, the fact is we just did not play well without the puck. No matter what adjustments Jackson was going to make, there are always 4 skaters without the puck (5 obviously if you are defending) and we did not play well without or away from the puck. That killed us. I don't know why that happened, other than I know it had nothing to do with the effort players and coaches gave. I honestly think we just made a few too many mistakes, and in hockey in 2018 you really need to be perfect sometimes to beat a skilled, well coached team. There is far more randomness (I actually don't like the term luck in this context) in winning this tournament than there is in winning a basketball one, or the 4 team playoff in football.

I'm long-winded and droning enough, but believe me, I could go on and on for hours about why I think hockey is a lot less interesting in 2018 than it was 30 or 40 years ago, and it has a lot to do with the style of the game today and why teams like UMD can and often do beat teams that are supposedly "better" in one and done tourneys.


We seemed to always score first during the winning streak.
by basicbasket  (2018-04-08 21:15:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

This was despite getting outshot consistently in the first period. But we couldn't score first during the tournament.

Even so, it could have easily been 1-1 after 1. And 2-1 Irish at the end. Their goalie made some good saves.


Except for a brief flurry in the 1st period...
by BIGSKYND  (2018-04-08 16:21:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I didn't see much of getting pucks in deep or an aggressive forecheck which would involve winning puck battles, a weakness all night). That, in turn, can get some cycling underway. Especially with young D, a good forecheck should have gotten some results.


We were getting pucks deep OK.
by Mr Wednesday  (2018-04-08 17:09:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But, as you noted, we were losing battles on the boards all night. The puck would go deep, tUMD would win it on the boards, and a couple of passes later, it would be back out of the zone.


Your post sums it up well *
by Boston Domer  (2018-04-09 00:38:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


True - I should have been more precise - once ...
by BIGSKYND  (2018-04-08 21:34:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

we started getting pucks deep rather than trying to carry in we had nothing of a forecheck - they never had any trouble making it one and done. Getting pucks in deep is useless unless you’ve got bodies there to do something.


True - what I meant was that *
by BIGSKYND  (2018-04-08 21:30:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I've worn out this comment
by wearendhockey  (2018-04-08 19:28:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

but we really did play poorly without the puck. We'd dump it deep but we led the forwards chasing the puck too much and UMD got a stick on it first. Although their second goal leaked in when maybe it shouldn't have, had Morris made that save but left the puck active, we did not have defenders positioned well enough to keep UMD skaters away from it. I'm not a particularly good hockey player, but I always prided myself as a good defensive forward because I was rarely out of position. I generated little offense other than lucky bounces but the other teams didn't score when I was on the ice a whole lot because I knew where to be and could check someone off the puck or be in his lane to prevent a good shot or effective pass. Positioning, play away from the puck and puck support is important at any level of the game, but I think it becomes more and more important the higher along the evolutionary chain the players are.


While we’re on it puck support was non-existant *
by BIGSKYND  (2018-04-08 21:36:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post