While Supplies Last.
by Cavanaugh82 (2024-05-02 07:46:46)
Edited on 2024-05-02 09:56:03

Now that the transfer portal is officially closed and it is unlikely that any more players will be entering I thought it might be of value to pull together a list of the viable candidates for the position that most of believe is one of need for the Irish, a Post Player.

Natalie Achonwa (6'3") has proven that you don't have to be of unusually tall height to be an effective Post player in basketball but, in my opinion, the advantages of a player at least 6'3" to push Koval in practice and to defend against the opposing posts is worth consideration. This list, therefore, only includes players in the portal that are at least 6'3" and is sorted by descending height. It includes all of the players that entered the portal this year that are 6'4" or taller and any player that is 6'3" (there are many more that I did not include) averaged at least 4 RPG last year. This is a totally arbitrary cut-off point on my part but I wanted to keep the list manageable.

These criteria exclude players like Liatu King (Pitt), Liza Karlen (Marquette), and Mary Ashley Stevenson (Purdue) with whom there appears to be some mutual interest or discussions about. While each of them would be significant additions to the ND roster none of them fit the bill for a true post player.

I have highlighted a few of them that have some interesting possibilities, even someone like Amirah Abdur-Rahim because of Coach Ivey's propensity to reach out to players with whom she has an already established relationship.

EDIT: added Texas A&M destination for Abdur-Rahim that the attached link and source for this list does not have yet but Raoul's wbbblog does include and Khadija Faye to Pitt. I won't keep updating the list, too much to keep track of, but maybe it is current as of this morning.

Former SchoolPlayer DetailsNew School
6'7"
BaylorLety Vasconcelos, 6’7, C, Fr. (1.1 ppg)
MarylandHawa Doumbouya, 6’7, C, Fr. (2.1 ppg)Virginia
OregonKennedy Basham, 6’7, F, Soph. (4.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg)Arizona State
6'6"
IllinoisAicha Ndour, 6’6, C, Sr. (1.3 ppg)
MiamiKyla Oldacre, 6’6, F, Soph. (5 ppg, 4.4 rpg)Texas
BellarmineGracie Merkle, 6’6, C, Soph. (15.1 ppg, 11 rpg — 2022-23)Penn State
Cal State NorthridgeArina Nikishina, 6’6, C, Sr. (3.8 rpg)Hampton
Northwestern St.Madison Moles, 6’6, C, Soph. (0 ppg)
Arkansas Pine-BluffMaya Peat, 6’6, C, Sr. (10.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg)
Chicago StateZikeyah Carter, 6’6, C, Jr. (2.6 ppg)
UconnAmari DeBerry, 6’6, F, Jr. (1 ppg)Maryland
6'5"
SyracuseMarilena Triantafilly, 6’5, C, Fr. (0.8 ppg)
Oklahoma St.Hannah Gusters, 6’5, C, Sr. (14.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg)UCF
WisconsinTessa Towers, 6’5, C, Soph. (0 ppg -1 game)Ball State
ArkansasJersey Wolfenbarger, 6’5, G/F, Jr. (3.9 ppg — 2022-23)LSU
Rhode IslandTenin Magassa, 6’5, C, Sr. (7 ppg, 4.6 rpg)Illinois
Georgia SouthernLydia Freeman, 6’5, C, Sr. (4 ppg)Grambling State
SyracuseMarilena Triantafilly, 6’5, C, Fr. (0.8 ppg)
MTSUIullia Grabovskaia, 6’5, C, Soph. (3.3)
Arkansas P-BMaori Davenport, 6’5, C, Sr. (4.7 ppg, 5.6 rpg)
LouisianaWilnie Joseph, 6’5, C, Jr. (1.4 ppg)
Notre DameNatalija Marshall, 6’5, F, Jr. (5 ppg, 3.7 rpg)Miami
Virginia TechClara Strack, 6’5, C, Fr. (4.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg)Kentucky
Iowa St. (Sacramento St.)Isnelle Natabou, 6’5, C, Jr. (4.5 ppg, 3.7 rpg)
6'4"
MiamiLatasha Lattimore, 6’4, F, Jr. (5.6 ppg)Virginia
MiamiLazaria Spearman, 6’4, F, Soph. (6.3 ppg, 6 rpg)Tennessee
North CarolinaAlexandra Zelaya, 6’4, F, Sr. (2.1 ppg)UNCW
North CarolinaTeonni Key, 6’4, G, Soph. (2.7 ppg)Kentucky
CincinnatiMalea Williams, 6’4, F, Sr. (8.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg)Florida State
Iowa St.Izzi Zingaro, 6’4, F, Jr. (3.2 ppg)Montana
TexasKhadija Faye, 6’4, F, Sr. (5.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg)Pitt
TexasAmina Muhammad, 6’4, F, Soph. (6.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Texas TechTionna Herron, 6’4, C, Fr. (1.5 ppg)
VillanovaKylie Swider, 6’4, C, Sr. (0.8 ppg)Stonehill
Penn StateAli Brigham, 6’4, F, Sr. (8.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg)Bryant
WisconsinSacia Vanderpool, 6’4, F, Soph. (0.7 ppg))N Dakota State
Oregon StateRaegan Beers, 6’4, F, Soph. (17.5 ppg, 10.3 rpg)Oklahoma
ArkansasMaryam Dauda, 6’4, F, Soph. (10.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg)
KentuckyJanae Walker, 6’4, F, Fr. (0.9 ppg)
Mississippi St.Nyayongah Gony, 6’4, F, Jr. (1.8 ppg)
Mississippi St.Ramani Parker, 6’4, F, Sr. (3 ppg, 5.5 rpg)
Texas A&MJaniah Barker, 6’4, F, Soph. (12.2 ppg, 7.6 rpg)
UTSANissa Sam-Grant, 6’4, C, Sr. (1.2 ppg)
Wichita St.Sophia Goncalves, 6’4, F, Fr. (0 ppg)
Queens NCHawa Balde-Camara, 6’4, C, Soph. (0.6 ppg)
DaytonRiley Rismiller, 6’4, F, Fr. (4.5 pp)Kent State
Charleston SouthernKennedi Jackson, 6’4, F, Sr. (14.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg)Boston College
RadfordEmma Fox, 6’4, C, Soph. (0 ppg)
UC Santa BarbaraLaurel Rockwood, 6’4, C, Jr. (3.1 ppg)
NC A&TMia Hardin, 6’4, C, Jr. (0.5 ppg)
Utah St.Lauren Crocker, 6’4, F, Fr. (1.6 ppg)
Little RockTrinity Hudson, 6’4, C, Sr. (2 ppg)
Boston UniversityCaitlin Weimar, 6’4, F, Sr. (18.7 ppg, 10.6 rpg)NC State
BucknellNicole Davis, 6’4, F, Sr. (1.6 ppg)
BucknellGrace Sullivan, 6’4, F, Soph. (8.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg)Northwestern
NicholsKate Manley, 6’4, C, Sr. (1.2 ppg)
Alabama StateDonYeil Bolton, 6’4, C, Soph. (1.2 ppg)
North DakotaDarcy Jardine, 6’4, C, Soph. (1.5 ppg)Western Colorado (D-II)
Arkansas St.Emma Imevbore, 6’4, F, Jr. (1.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg)Troy
South AlabamaCheyenne Pearson, 6’4, C, Fr. (DNP)
PepperdineHolly Griffiths, 6’4, F, Fr. (3.1 ppg)Fresno State
San DiegoHarsimran Kaur, 6’4, F, Jr. (8.6 ppg, 5 rpg)URI
6'3"
KentuckyAjae Petty, 6’3, F, Sr. (14.2 ppg, 10.6 rpg)Ohio State
ClemsonMakayla Elmore, 6’3, F, Sr. (4.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg) Pittsburgh
MichiganCameron Williams, 6’3, F, Sr. (7.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg)
Arizona StateJourney Thompson, 6’3, F, Soph. (5.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
ColoradoAaronette Vonleh, 6’3, C, Jr. (14 ppg, 5.1 rpg)Baylor
OregonGrace VanSlooten, 6’3, F, Soph. (15 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 2.6 apg)Michigan State
Oregon StTimea Gardiner, 6’3, F, Soph. (11.6 ppg, 7 rpg)UCLA
StanfordKiki Iriafen, 6’3, F, Jr. (19.4 ppg, 11 rpg)USC
BryantMariona Planes Fortuny, 6’3, F, Sr. (16.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 2.8 apg)
SMUAmirah Abdur-Rahim, 6’3, F, Sr. (11.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg)Texas A&M
Idaho StateLaura Bello, 6’3, F, Jr. (8.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg)UT Arlington
Long Beach StateDavai Matthews, 6’3, F, Soph. (4.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg)
UC IrvineNevaeh Parkinson, 6’3, C, Sr. (8.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg)Arizona State
TowsonQuinzia Fulmore, 6’3, F, Jr. (7.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg)Memphis
UNCWMingaile Urmuleviciute, 6’3, F, Soph. (4.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg)Lafayette
YaleBrenna McDonald, 6’3, F, Sr. (8.4 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
Eastern MichiganTayra Eke, 6’3, C, Jr. (9.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg)
Missouri StateJade Masogayo, 6’3, F, Soph. (8.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg)
Missouri StateKennedy Taylor, 6’3, F, Jr. (10.7 ppg, 7.1 rpg)Kansas State
Colorado StateCali Clark, 6’3, F, Sr. (1.9 ppg, 4.4 rpg)San Diego State
SamfordCarly Heidger, 6’3, G, Soph. (9.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg)Loyola Marymount
North Dakota StateElle Evans, 6’3, G, Soph. (15.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
PepperdineJorynn Ross, 6’3, F, Fr. (6.1 ppg, 4 rpg)





We should definitely take one from this list if we can
by NPaulTodd  (2024-05-02 15:45:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I don't care if it's someone that will only play a few minutes a game and isn't good enough to earn more minutes. While Becky didn't play a lot, there were a few games where we really needed her to give us 2 or 3 minutes in the second quarter to protect our other bigs from picking up an extra foul. That kept our starters in the game in the second half and that can easily be the difference between a win or a loss. That's an important role too.

Of course, if Barker or Dauda want to come I'd take them in a heartbeat. But if not, we could definitely use another body at practice, 5 extra fouls to give, and somebody to put in when other players are dinged up or in foul trouble.

I'm sure not all players are happy and willing to sit on the bench all year,


6'7" vs 6'0", in this compare the 6 ft is the better post
by Domerduck  (2024-05-02 13:30:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

player and it's not even close. In comparing 6'7" ex-Duck Basham who started for Oregon and I saw play over 15 times last year (live & on TV) vs Liatu King where I only watched her two games against ND, King was BY FAR the better post player. The thing about King she stays near the basket and is very athletic and jumps high with good hands. To average over 10 rebounds a game, 18.7 ppg shooting 53% all twos, while getting 1.5 St/G and 1.8 Bl/g is very impressive. Basham stats 4.5 ppg/3.5 rpg/40% (all twos), .3 St/G & 1.5 Bl/g despite being 7 inches taller. In fact the better tall player on the Ducks 6'4" Van Slooten had even worst stats than Liatu across the boards and she even played more minutes per game that King.

Liatu would be a perfect seasoned post player to help ND. I don't know 6'2" Karlen's game that well but honestly right now let's not get enampored by height. Let's get seasoned ball players who will play around the rim and I know King fits that bill. I understand the practice player concept but ND did just fine with tall guys playing against the women in practice before. Let's find those Bookstore Bball studs who want to help ND win another championship and get the best post player (or 2) who can help the team. We do need more numbers.


I don't think offense is the concern
by GriffinGold16  (2024-05-02 14:00:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I personally have nightmares about River Baldwin having her way with ND in the first half of the first NC State game and Raegan Beers being practically unstoppable in the season-ending loss. The post play was never phenomenal this season on the offensive end and our guards were typically enough. Not to say that I would reject competent posts on offense but my biggest lingering question is, how do we guard the tall ones when they're on the other team?


I agree. A 1way player will suffice here *
by ram  (2024-05-02 15:11:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


!0.3 rpg is not offense, especially when you are not getting
by Domerduck  (2024-05-02 14:40:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

your own rebounds given her 53% shooting. ND's best player was Hannah at 6.2 rebounds per game. How many teams outrebounded us last year? 1.8 blocks per game which was 30% higher than ND's best player (Kylee) is certainly not offense nor her 1.5 steals per game which matches Maddie's rate is certainly not offense. Then think about what King did against ND in her two games beyond her 26.5 ppg/67% shooting. She had 13.5 rpg and 2.5 blocks per game. I still think she would great on our team helping post play.

The real issue on post play isn't height but bulk which the River Baldwins and Raegen Beers were able to exploit, especially with Kylee out. If Cav82 added that feature I could buy into getting one of those type players but as we saw with Obinma last year bulk & height isn't enough. The player needs to have the skills to match.


Marshall, as much as I love her, was a great example that...
by Cavanaugh82  (2024-05-02 15:11:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

height alone is not enough to effectively play the center position and I apologize if I made it sound as though I thought ND should just grab any player off this list, regardless of their skill level, just because they are tall. Alissa Pili at 6'2" is another player that is able to use her physical size to her advantage as an alternative to pure height.

But you can also look at players like Elissa Cunane and Elizabeth Kitley that are not exceptionally good athletes but through a lot of work and instruction were able to become All-Americans by harnessing the one advantage that they did have.


I think Pili is really 6'.
by PWK2  (2024-05-02 16:02:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That's what the papers said when the Lynx drafted her.


You mean you can't believe everything on the Internet? *
by Cavanaugh82  (2024-05-02 18:05:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agree with you we need more effectibe post help. Pili is
by Domerduck  (2024-05-02 15:24:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

good but she's an AA because she;s agreat shot. including the 3. All I wanted to say Basham, despite her height, would have been worse than Nat at post help and King would be better than both, as her athletic ability makes her play much raller than she is. My guess if she xame to ND she would focus ob D and cleaning up the boards which we really need.

Anyway to get more post help I totally agree.


This is also my point. For Domerduck, embrace 'and', they...
by Cavanaugh82  (2024-05-02 14:16:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

can get both (I hope) the athletic player around the basket and a traditional post player that fills different roles. 'You can't teach height' although you can work around it if necessary.

I would not be at all surprised if the Irish don't bring in a single player from this list and they will still be an outstanding team. Will they be the best that they can be will be open to debate, as always.


Excellent work! Thanks. *
by BTFNDGUY  (2024-05-02 12:18:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thank you. Informative and succinct. *
by hibernianangst  (2024-05-02 10:27:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Great, Thorough List! A Few Updates. Thoughts
by dillon77  (2024-05-02 09:54:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Transactions:
- Amirah Abdur-Rahim (SMU/ND) committed to Texas A&M (a little under the radar)
- Khadija Faye (Texas) is coming to the ACC, just to Pitt, as reported by Raoul this morning.

Continuations (from my post earlier in the week)
Only these two posts are left:
- Maryam Douda, the shot blocker from Arkansas who also has a pretty good 3-pt. shot. Apparently, a lot of schools have reached out to her, so she's got some trimming to do.
- Cameron Williams, the grad. forward from Michigan and the South Side of Chicago. If Niele wants a one-year deal, this person makes a whole lot of sense to me. Used to coming off the bench/starting but playing crunch time, she could play forward or center.

Others (thanks to Irish Dan)

- Brenna McDonald, 6'3" Center from Yale. One of two best players on a generally "blah" Yale team, but did a lot for the Bulldogs on all fronts.

- Letycia Vasoncelos, Baylor. Barely cracked the floor for a team in need of a center, but she was rated highly. Could be more of a long-term deal (with practice potential).







Maya Peat, 6'6" Ark. Pine Bluff, Sr., averaged 10 ppg
by MountainMan  (2024-05-03 06:03:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

& 6.4 rpg, along with 42 blocks for season. She is from Arizona. Looks to have a decent size frame. Back up post?


Nat was 6'2"? *
by Jon  (2024-05-02 09:18:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Autocorrect, er typo. That's my story... *
by Cavanaugh82  (2024-05-02 09:57:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Great, Thorough List! A Few Updates. Thoughts
by dillon77  (2024-05-02 09:02:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Transactions:
- Amirah Abdur-Rahim (SMU/ND) committed to Texas A&M (a little under the radar)
- Khadija Faye (Texas) is coming to the ACC, just to Pitt, as reported by Raoul this morning.

Continuations (from my post earlier in the week)
Only these two posts are left:
- Maryam Douda, the shot blocker from Arkansas who also has a pretty good 3-pt. shot. Apparently, a lot of schools have reached out to her, so she's got some trimming to do.
- Cameron Williams, the grad. forward from Michigan and the South Side of Chicago. If Niele wants a one-year deal, this person makes a whole lot of sense to me. Used to coming off the bench/starting but playing crunch time, she could play forward or center.

Others (thanks to Irish Dan)

- Brenna McDonald, 6'3" Center from Yale. One of two best players on a generally "blah" Yale team, but did a lot for the Bulldogs on all fronts.

- Letycia Vasoncelos, Baylor. Barely cracked the floor for a team in need of a center, but she was rated highly. Could be more of a long-term deal (with practice potential).

- Jorynn Ross (Pepperdine) and Lilly Taulelei are freshman forwards who both played in transition years for coaches (last at Pepperdine, first at UMass), but both got into the starting lineups. Ross is from Milwaukee, so maybe she'd be interested in coming back to the Midwest.







Abdur-Rahim committed to Texas A&M
by mwayne  (2024-05-02 08:56:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Sounds like Dauda is in high demand, with several schools in contact, including South Carolina. I'd be surprised if Barker leaves the SEC.


Well done! Thanks!
by drmurray  (2024-05-02 08:12:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think Amirah Abdur-Rahim signed with A&M recently?