than ND have a single loss to team that has never been ranked this year. As much as I agree that two wins over Louisville would be great, Louisville's resume would still be better. Their only 2 losses would be to a top 6 team away and also on a neutral court. They would have beaten 7 ranked teams and all 3 teams that beat ND including UConn who also beat us by double digits. I just don't see how they lose their 1 Seed to a 3 loss ND. especially if MSU, Oregon, and Baylor still are 1 seeds with 1 loss each. Also a 2 loss UConn would have a better chance to take Louisville's 1 Seed than ND even though L'ville beat UConn.

Lets just say we win the remaining games on our schedule....We play NC and Miami again in the ACC Tournament and bet them both by say 20 points. Then we beat Louisville in the finals just say 8 to 10 points...Would the wins over Miami and NC in the tournament nil out the losses early in the season. Plus beating a team in the two three for a second time put us more in the position for a 1 seed over one of the teams ahead of us....Thanks...

SEG/Chief

it's possible the committee might put 29-3 ND ahead of 30-2 L'ville in your scenario with two of our losses avenged, ND owning the ACC Tourney championship, while L'ville won the ACC regular season outright. Even with that scenario 30-2 UConn and the three 31-1 teams (Baylor, Oregon, and MSU) who are all both their conference champ and tourney champ would most certainly have one seeds over 29-3 ND. Not sure all that will happen as much is still to be played, but IMO ND is going to need some help if it wants the 1 seed back.

Ultimately the most important thing that ND can get is to go to Chicago even as a two Seed. It's certainly better than going to Albany or Portland if UConn and Oregon are also there. If winning out and beating Louisville helps us do that than that's great.

Thanks for your input. Great insight....I agree with you. ND will need outside help to get back to 1 seed....But I think they still have a great shot at getting seeded in Chicago, as long as the keep winning...Thanks

SEG/Chief

If Notre Dame and Louisville both win out until the ACC tournament final, and the Irish then defeat the Cardinals, we will have one more loss than Louisville but far more better wins, including going 2-0 vs. Louisville. The committee values good wins over bad losses, so any way you look at it, Notre Dame would have the stronger resume.

Louisville cannot control their conference schedule, but their OOC schedule (ASU at neutral site, Kentucky and UConn at home) was definitely less challenging than Notre Dame's (Gonzaga and Oregon St at neutral site, Iowa and UConn at home, away game @Marquette). We are top-ranked in OOC RPI and OOC SOS. Louisville is 3rd in OOC RPI and 17th in OOC SOS.

You cannot just count losses and order teams on the S-curve that way. Remember 31-1 Baylor last season? Ranked 2nd with only one loss but relegated to a 2-seed because of a weak schedule. Meanwhile Notre Dame (ranked 5th/6th in the polls) with a 29-3 record gets a 1-seed. Baylor goes on to lose in the E8 to Oregon St., while ND won it all.

Remember Maryland in 2017? Ranked 5th/3rd in the polls with a gaudy 30-2 record, but relegated to a 3-seed because of a weak schedule. They fell to 10-seed Oregon in the E8.

tourney wins over ranked teams - probably at least 2 more

One other thing, Louisville has only beaten 1 ranked opponent away from home and 1 at a neutral site. If ND wins out, they will have beaten 4 ranked opponents away from home and 1 at a neutral site. (And 6 if you count UT and DePaul who were ranked when ND played them)

While UNC was a bad loss, Tarheels have now beaten a #1 and a #2 seed (when they played them). They only lost by 7 at Louisville and by 1 against FSU. They have been inconsistent, but talented enough to beat top teams

FSU as their only tough ACC teams they had to play away. Also the fact they get to play UVA & Pitt twice (combined current records: 19-30 & 4-18 in the ACC) was already unfair. That's by far the worst combined record of any ACC teams "rivals' (ND's teams are currently 29-19). Also I totally agree our OOC challenges were far tougher. As I've said before we should be open to having Louisville our rival (replacing Ga Tech & Va respectively), with home & away each year like we had with UConn in the Big East, as it would mean another ESPN game every year as I am sure they'd televise both.

That said we just should not have lost those three games, especially to unranked NC (despite it's talent) when the 5 teams ahead of us have only lost 1 or 2 games and those that lost 2 (even assuming Louisville loses again to us) would have only lost to top 6 teams and not on their home floor. The teams with one loss only lost to top 25 teams away. They may not have had as tough a schedule as us, but they took care of business with the teams they were scheduled to play.

quality of losses versus head to head.

I seem to recall hearing Creme bring that up. And I also remember him bringing up that the NC loss might be considered in light of Jackie not being there.

However, ND didn't help that by then losing to Miami....

This is one of those times that I fall back on the old "...look at the next game in front of you" and take care of what you can.

but not both. Now we will stay behind the top 5 teams ahead of us if they keep winning. You are correct, just win the next games ahead of us and hope for the best. Lat year the team reacted well when less was expected of them. Maybe now with the lower Seed we may catch the same magic again. Lots to be played still.