...in all forms of media, including having a picture of Clare as her main pic for years. At first, it threw me when going to her site...
...the devotion is touching, perhaps even more given that her committing fell during this week. Thanks for the explanation....
....via twitter. Great to see. (Alli's linked below)
Jordan and Nat know each other well from the Catholic leagues in NYC: Jordan (and Dani P's The Mary Louis Academy) and Nat's Christ the King.
The Irish will have three NYC girls on the roster in 2020: Dani P. and Nat from Brooklyn (although both went to HS in Queens) and Jordan from Harlem (who went to HS in both the Bronx and Queens).
And Danielle C. is not far away, from Suffolk County in Long Island.
Forget the cheesesteak, let's have bagels in the morning and dogs at night.
to give up breathing. I can handle dogs and bagels. But you are asking
a Pennsylvanian for the ultimate sacrifice.
Do New Yorkers give up Hoagies??
Good or bad news to come. I like the idea that Clark is still keeping
in touch with the New York Hit Squad.
... I also really like the idea that Jordan is also in on the hit parade.
Would she be considered the god mother. But seriously, I really like it
that she is rebounding from what she may consider a subpar performance.
I call it learning at a very difficult pace. Her NY roots will show
next year. Another thing on her side is reinforcements from her NY past.
They will all be in enforce to give her support. I think that is very
important for a young woman so far from home. You also have to add in the
talk all over the place about the incoming freshman and the recruits they
are going after. It will either bring out the best or worse in her. I am
banking on best. She is a New Yorker and has a lot to prove. Dani showed
signs this year. I am also beating on you will see the best in another
New Yorker.
...As mentioned before I am from PA. We do not exactly do cart wheels
with New Yorkers. However, over the years I have gotten to know a lot
of people from NY. Outside getting on my nerves. The 2 things I have
seen in every New Yorker is they are tough and proud. They will not
except losing, unless your from ST. Johns. That is why I am going to
Vegas on Dani and Jordan. Actually, I am not. I just want my point
to be known how much I believe in those 2 players. I put Mik in there
also. Because she is a Philly girl. Now they do not get any tougher or
determined or proud.
SEG/Chief
P.S. I have to put NJ in the same boat with PA and NY. Although half
of the state can not figure if they are part of NY and the other half
thinks they are from Philly.
beginning to sense that Kelly is an ND lean. Caitlin Clark noted Parrish's commitment to Oregon and the collapse of the Notre Dame Cathedral roof. Throughout the season I watched for Caitlin to visit ND, but she never appeared and now I wonder if this perfect match is ever going to happen.
Clark seems like the ideal ND recruit. I guess kudos to ND for broadening recruiting. Been doing well of late with PA and NY which are a bit outside the usual Midwest network. And, now, potentially (again) Texas.
I remember Lou from BGI telling me that those states led in
BGI subscriptions. So no surprise at all that MM is re-
cruiting well there now....Incidentally, when I say NY I
include NJ as well....
I grew up in rural Lancaster County PA. Bout 70 miles west of Philly.
We still have to look on the map to find Pittsburgh. But you were
either a Nittany Lion or Irish fan. I decided to go the Irish rout.
...For those of you weak on PA recruiting in all sports. Notre Dame
has a very strong recruiting history in PA. It is kinda funny how
normally the sports work out. The football team gets a lot of PA
players from the PGH Western PA area. Basketball gets more of the
Philly or Eastern PA players.
...Now Ms Campbell kinda through that stereotype out the window. Being
about a hour east of PGH.But for the good I must say. PA Mountain
athletes a tough, smart and loyal. I have been to Altoona, many times
in my youth. I have family in Latrobe and have been there many times. I
also use to live in Johnstown PA.
...If there are History Buffs out there. You want some sad reading on
a very proud and determined town. Look up Johnstown, PA in wikipedia.
You will find very few towns snake bitten like Johnstown, but they
have preserved. They are prime example of proud, tough, and determined
Pennsylvanians.
SEG/Chief
18% on my booze.
I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion from BGI subscriptions.
Historically, Chicago newspapers have provided much greater coverage of Notre Dame football than New York papers; accordingly, Notre Dame fans in Chicago were less likely to have to rely upon BGI or other subscription services, potentially skewing the subscription numbers in favor of New York and other more remote locales.
It's been a long time since I've seen data from Notre Dame's alumni association (or admissions, for that matter) that would shed more light on geographic distribution of Notre Dame students and alumni.
World. Chicago is just a tad closer.
SEG/Chief
I was in a sporting goods store in Chicago last summer and I
couldn't find a ND hat amongst the universities available. I
asked a clerk if they had ND hats and she laughed. "They have
their own section," she said. "Two aisles down."
Only the NY Times covers ND in NY these days. The Daily News
is a rag and occassionally the NY Post will cover a game.
...and protecting ND's overall interests and needs by searching for and developing other options.
Youre'right -- on paper and tape, Caitlin Clark (CC) looks like the perfect ND prospect and MM has put time, effort and miles into this. But MPG has noted that there have no been trips to ND by CC this year and Orangutan, in particular, notes most of CC's social media tends toward Oregon. In newspaper articles, I've noted several references to Iowa schools, with some reference to "national" schools.
That said, Clark could be keeping all this close to the vest and who knows how phone conversations have gone. She still could declare for ND...after all, she said she intends to have a decision made by summer's end.
But I think Deja Kelly being considered is protecting the team's flanks. And while Kelly is not viewed as highly by services as CC, she is a noted enough talent to have firm interest by schools like Oregon (again), Duke and others. Good field general who can also look for her shot.
Got no issue with this...after getting caught last year at the witching hour with their pockets and options empty (see Aliyah Boston and Hayley Jones who waited until the last possible moment to announce their choices), it looks like there are firm options in place.
For what it's worth, a growing "gut" thought in my brain says that if CC goes elsewhere and Kelly comes here, don't be surprised if a second Westbeld comes to campus.
Westbeld seems also to be or one or "should" be an ND lean. Need to start winning not only the leans but also a surprise or two.
It's an intriguing concept...
- A prospect that people have not heard of?
(I think in this day and age of social media, it's hard not to see who coaches are interacting with...)
- Someone affiliated with multiple schools?
(Based on what I think you're saying, Aliyah Boston choosing South Carolina over ND and virtual hometown favorite, UConn, would fall in that catgory)
In looking at ND's verbal commitments:
- Alli Campbell was interested in ND, but was something of a pleasant surprise from a process standpoint by committing so early. That helps not only to have a bird in hand, but with planning down the road.
- Nat Marshall. Had a finalist list of a lot of the usual suspects, but it looked like it got down to Stanford and ND. So were in a good place, but Stanford's been on a roll. But we won that, so that's a good, solid win.
I'd put Caitlin Clark in the same place: has visited Oregon schools, very familiar with Iowa schools and there's ND. But that's a tough competition. In the past, perhaps the Catholic background would, should, to the trick but this does not seem to the case.
And Maddy Westbeld strikes me as not necessarily being a top-line option but is moving up the list as things fall out. The trouble is sometimes those kinds of players find other ports of call. I'll bet MPG would agree with me that post/forward Naz Hillmon might've been one of those when she went to Michigan.
So, I'm interested in what you're thinking of. Enjoy the give and take. Thanks.
Someone you thought was leaning or going elsewhere, only to pick ND. I'd put Kelly in this category if she ends up committing (but seems less highly regarded than Clark).
For example, while I'm excited about Marshall, the buzz was she was probably an ND lean, especially after Stanford got filled up. I'd put Westbeld here too. Same with Brunelle and Peoples.
Yes, your Boston example works well. I'd probably put Briana Turner in this category, too. Jenna Brown would fit the surprise, at least for me, although she eventually de-committed.
Happy to be wrong about this, but it seems like ND tends to get most of the players they "should" (Skylar, Jewell, Jackie, Ali, Taya) but misses out on a couple more who seems like "should" go versus the surprises we end up getting. Of course, MM and staff are experts at developing talent.
Most of the "should" prospects you cite I totally agree with.
But sometimes the staff makes sure they get to that classification: Campbell might be a case in point. Scrawny 5'9" PG comes to Recruitapalooza and loves the place/staff/other possible teammates. MM and Niele have her back for virtually private camps. They kinda sealed the deal that way.
Dani Patterson was down to ND, UVA and Tennessee and many in Knoxville thought she was a Vol, given her love for Parker and a positive visit.
Maybe not the surprise you're looking at, but a good get.
It will be interesting to see where the next surprise situation comes up.
Getting a Cook to transfer? Fudd?
Interesting: When Sam committed and she was there I would have thought Fudd was an ND lean. Now with Paige to UConn, who knows. She's clearly a national top prospect, and ND is due for a win with such a person after some close misses with Cox, Walker, Westbrook, etc. of late.