Also no bluebloods
by bizdomer09 (2023-03-24 23:04:02)
Edited on 2023-03-24 23:25:08

In reply to: No #1seed in elite 8? *  posted by whiskeyirish


I would define that as UNC, Duke, UCLA, Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana. Yes Indiana still included, taking the long view. UConn has championships, so they’re the closest to a traditional power still alive, but I’m looking beyond 25 years.

Edit to add: last time without one of the 6 teams listed above reaching the elite eight was 1959.


UConn and KU each have 4 championships,
by Tex Francisco  (2023-03-25 09:22:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

but UConn seems nouveau riche. They are the Miami of the basketball world.


KU has 6 championships; and is Duke Miami?
by 2011KeenanTrumpet  (2023-03-25 13:01:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There are Helms Champions from before the tournaments, and the NIT and NCAA vied for prominence up until 1950, so Helms is still the best way to go until 1950.

Including the two KU championships from the 1920s explains the difference between KU and Connecticut.

KU championships: 1922, 1923, 1952, 1988, 2008, 2022
Conn championships: 1999, 2004, 2011, 2014
Duke championships: 1991, 1992, 2001, 2010, 2015

But part of Miami football is that they are not long-tenured - they are ranked in the mid-40s for total wins. Duke, on the other hand, is ranked #4 for wins.

So perhaps UConn IS Miami, whereas Duke is more of a Nebraska, who played for a long time with many wins, but only started winning championships post-70s.

And Kansas is Alabama or USC (but not ND, because they've actually won it all recently).


Good analogy
by bizdomer09  (2023-03-25 10:56:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think there’s a solid next tier with Villanova, Syracuse, Louisville, and Arizona that Connecticut belongs in.