The situation was bleak. Notre Dame’s offense could not get out of its own way after the opening possession of the night. Duke rallied behind Riley Leonard and Justin Waters to take a 14-13 lead with nine minutes remaining. The Fighting Irish were one play away from a second consecutive loss and faced a fourth down, with 16 yards to go with 41 seconds on the clock. Piece of cake, right?
Well, not exactly. Things did not look good for the visitors as quarterback Sam Hartman took the shotgun snap. He could not find an open receiver but he escaped the pocket to his right and saw daylight. Seconds later, a crash occurred at the line to gain as Hartman launched himself into a trio of Duke tacklers and made the first down by a yard. After stopping the clock with a spike, Audric Estime took an inside handoff and fought his was into the clear for a 30-yard touchdown. Hartman then secured a two-point conversion with a pass to Rico Flores for a 21-14 victory.
Duke’s subsequent last ditch effort to score ended with a sack, a fumble, and a nasty looking ankle injury to Leonard. If it is possible for a fan base to feel worse than Notre Dame’s after last week’s soul-crushing loss to Ohio State, the Blue Devil faithful can make a pretty good argument for that dubious honor.
Notre Dame began the game by playing aggressively. Hartman threw the ball downfield to challenge Mike Elko’s defense. When the opening series stalled near midfield, Jeremiah Love took a short snap in punt formation and raced 34 yards for a first down deep in Duke territory. Estime cashed in Coach Marcus Freeman’s gamble two plays later with a six yard score.
The Irish defense also dominated early. Duke tried to respond but had to settle for a 37-yard field goal attempt. Kicker Todd Pelino missed, and he would later fail from just 25 yards. When the Blue Devils regained possession, safety Xavier Watts intercepted Leonard’s errant pass and returned it to the Duke 12 yard line. Notre Dame fans relaxed and prepared to celebrate a blowout victory.
It didn’t quite work out that way, though. Duke stuffed Notre Dame and forced a Spencer Shrader field goal to trail by 10-0 as the game entered the second period. The remainder of the half was a futile exercise by both offenses until the Blue Devils threatened in the final moments. Pelino’s point blank miss sent the teams to the locker room with the Irish clinging to its 10-0 lead.
Notre Dame drew first blood early in the third quarter. Hartman’s pass to Mitchell Evans set up another Shrader field goal from 45 yards. Now trailing by 13-0, Leonard began to poke holes in the Irish defense with designed runs and run-pass option plays. After a 34-yard burst by Jaquez Moore, Waters capped a 75-yard march with a one yard plunge to narrow the margin to 13-7.
Warning signs began to flash as the Duke crowd awakened. Notre Dame could not convert on third down. The Iirish defense fell back into its old habit of missing tackles. Twelve penalties had both units moving backward all night. And frankly, the Irish were being outcoached.
Duke took possession early in the fourth period and moved into scoring territory on a 33-yard quarterback draw by Leonard. Moore pitched in with tough yards on the ground. On third and goal, Moore drifted into the flat and caught a short touchdown pass with no Irish defender anywhere in sight. It was an inspired play design by the Blue Devils that worked to perfection.
As the final minutes ticked down with Duke leading 14-13, Leonard had his team on the move. The Blue Devils reached the Irish 29 yard line with three minutes left in the game before the drive stalled. Elko had a decision to make, and chose not to bring in the 0-2 Pelino for a long field goal attempt. Instead, he ordered a pooch punt that the Blue Devils downed on the Notre Dame five yard line. The way his defense had been playing, it seemed like a brilliant move.
Notre Dame’s task looked daunting even for its most optimistic fans, especially after another penalty backed them up by half the distance to their own goal. Fortunately, an obvious pass interference penalty moved Notre Dame out of the shadows of its own goal. Hartman then went to work. He hit Evans for 19 yards and Flores for 24 more to cross midfield. Disaster struck, however, on the very next play. Wideout Tobias Merriweather was called for offensive pass interference when he pushed off his defender in an attempt to make a catch down the sideline.
Hartman was now looking at first and 25 with 1:11 left. A short pass to Estime gained nine but two consecutive incompletions under extreme pressure brought Notre Dame to the brink of defeat. With everything on the line, Hartman demonstrated the willingness to sacrifice his body to keep his team alive. Thankfully, he and the Irish came out unscathed.
Let’s review the answers to our pregame questions.
- Which defense will be able to stop the run? Both teams did well in the early going. The Irish front seven broke down in the second half while Duke continued to stuff the Irish until Estime crashed through for the game winning score.
- Will the young Irish receivers succeed against a small but experienced Duke secondary? No. They could not get open most of the night. Merriweather in particular had an awful performance. Thank goodness Evans was awesome once again from the tight end spot. He caught six passes for 134 yards.
- Which special teams and kicker will influence the outcome? Shrader was 2 of 3 for Notre Dame while Pelino’s misses cost the Blue Devils dearly. Both punters had a shank and Chris Tyree dropped a punt that the Irish were fortunate to recover.
- Can Notre Dame get off to a strong start and maintain a high emotional level? They started with vigor but could not sustain under the weight of silly penalties and Duke’s stellar defensive game plan. The offense was inept for long stretches and the defense sprung second half leaks at inopportune moments.
- Which coaching staff manage to keep the other team off balance? Elko and his defensive staff utterly embarrassed Notre Dame’s Offensive Coordinator Gerad Parker. The battle between Al Golden and Duke Offensive Coordinator Kevin Johns was about even. Both had some good moments.
- Will Leonard be free to scramble around and make plays with his arm and legs? Not in the first half but he looked as good as advertised after intermission. It’s a shame he was injured on Duke’s final play.
- Which team will win the turnover battle? Notre Dame had an interception and game-clinching fumble recovery. They committed no turnovers themselves but penalties hounded them all night.
Notre Dame can temporarily breath a sigh of relief as they avoided disaster. The Blue Devils were better than expected but the talent disparity was narrowed by Duke’s inspired effort. The Irish need to regroup as the next two weeks feature another pair of night games against ranked teams. Freeman must address the poor showing by his few healthy wide receivers and the persistent poor tackling from his secondary. On a positive note, linebacker Marist Liufau had a few good plays to offset the times he was caught out of position. That said, Howard Cross was the best Irish defender on the field tonight. The biggest negative was the targeting foul on Jordan Botelho, who will have to sit out the first half against Louisville. For Irish fans, the rollercoaster ride continues.
One Historian says:
1) Irish score a gutsy win on the road after a heartbreaker at home
2) LSU loses their 2nd game – at Ole Miss
add them together and you get
3) Life is good
Marty says:
The running game featuring a one back set (Estime) pounding it up the middle for a yard is really getting old. Zero creativity in the run game.This is stifling not only Estime, but Hartman as well by making the offense so predictable. Until the offense plays change, we can expect the same nail biting games over the next weeks. Shame on our offense. What a waste of some great talent.
Terrun says:
The offense has been abysmal since Ron Powlus, with a 2 year hiatus under Weis. Kelly was supposed to create consistency with the spread, but QBs would get worse the longer they played under him, and yes, the running game, but especially the passing game, makes no sense. The routes take forever to end, so the QB consistently has nobody to throw the ball to, it’s like a broken record.
miuke says:
Last nite felt like Rees was making a one game cameo appearance. Are there any sightings?
David says:
I had to laugh at the title of the article this a.m. It really caught me off guard, yet I greatly appreciated it. John’s color commentary resonated with several of the Emotions I experienced while watching the game. Thanks. My life is challenging for the last 4 years and watching the game and reading this column brought me a much appreciated and respite. Thanks.
Roger Dean Wine says:
I agree that Parker got schooled by Elko. I hope Ger learns, and quickly. So far I’d say it’s obvious why no team ever promoted him to full time OC. His repeatedly running into the A and B gaps as ND’s interior line got their asses handed to them was both stupid and stubborn, two qualities ND doesn’t need in an OC.
❤️🍀#50 says:
Geesh talk about a win is a win!
Pap says:
I could really use a rocking chair game next Saturday night! Happy for Coach Freeman and the team.
GOND88 says:
This was probably the butt ugliest & sloppiest win in more than a decade. ND did everything they could to hand Duke the game but miraculously escaped Durham with a win. ND must have set an NCAA record for offsides penalties.
If not for Mitchell Evans channeling Mike Mayer ND would have lost. I realize the WR’s are very young but their route running was awful and they could barely get open most of the night. This was the most pitiful offensive performance since ND’s 45-7 beatdown at Michigan in 2019. Parker was one if not two steps behind the Duke D coordinator most of the night. The had no offensive identity last night and seemed to be grab bagging the calls.
After the first quarter and again after the first half I felt Duke made effective adjustments on both sides of the ball and outcoached ND although Golden mostly acquitted himself. Now that ND is getting into the meat of their schedule they are starting to get exposed a little and I don’t think they are a bona fide top 10 team at this point in the season.
Deano the Wino says:
I agree with your assessment of their ranking. I doubt they are top 20, much less top 10. Bad OC, weak HC, bad interior O line, weak WR corps with no depth, horrendous tackling. Not a lot to like about this edition of the Irish.
The Real Fan says:
You would rather have Kelly?
ND fan in the South says:
Get back to your wine. I’ve been watching the Irish for 70 years. we have some great athletes, better than I’ve seen in the last two decades. just need a little more discipline and we will be fine.
Jake in Cali says:
GOND88;
ALL of your points are spot on.. Play calling just awful by Parker…
Robert Soto says:
Sir, I agree with you whole-heartedly! The referees made egregious calls during the entire 2nd half though. The refs are constantly reminding us that they want to punish the Irish, for not joining a conference! I do not claim to know shit, but HAVE seen a pattern since the 70’s.
Kalamazoo Irish says:
Well wished things would have been cleaner, but a win on the road in that environment, we will take it.
Hartmann 4th and 16 run will be remembered for a long long time, shades of UCLA 2006.
On too Louisville
D. Gremillon says:
Hartman’s run was no big deal except that he got the first down. Any good high school QB would have done the same.
Tom says:
Glad the Irish pulled out the win. They had to overcome an inspired Duke team, wild hostile crowd, injuries and as usual the biased ACC referees. Somehow they picked up the early PI flag, overturned the spot on the coffin corner kick and manufactured a targeting call. All unusual calls all against the Irish. One happens, two is just bad luck, but three calls / non-calls reversed against he Irish there is something going on. What though the odds be great or small . . .
Bill McKinney says:
I agree the Irish must lead the nation in getting flags picked up on opponents’ penalties!
Deano the Wino says:
The targeting call was legit. Bothello might be their best pass rusher but he’s a loose canon, seriously lacking discipline. If he could stay out of the dog house and stay on the field he could be a real difference maker.
Tom says:
Not saying the targeting call was not legit, however, there were probably 10 similar hits not called during the game. My issue is the timing of the call for the booth review. Shockingly they seem to always go against the Irish at critical times during the game. I guess they’re tired of the Irish whooping every ACC team they face.
Tom says:
Nice summary Vannie. The ACC referee crew comment needs to be said.
Dennis Murphy says:
Where is Tommy Rees when you need him
Tom says:
I think Tommy was the run game coordinator for this game.
Jamie says:
ND and its players ate gong through, watch for it, a coaches’ learning curve.
They’re assembling the talent now they have to assemble them themselves.
Other than the causal weekend observer, it was obvious, once again, that ND can be very good at times and very bad in others. Inconsistency is not a symbol of goodness or greatness.
All can be corrected, but now are taking fundamentals (either the O-line is waaay overrated or ND is being out-coached & outclassed in game day, in both in O and D strategy & adjustments.
BUT, Elizabeth, my heart cat take this for another weekend. Love these guys – Sam, what a difference you make – and the future is so bright.
It’s now time for Freeman to wake up in the film room and make this team realize their potential. I think he will – it’s just a matter of when. Year 3 will tell the tale.
mike says:
“Year 3” will see the absence of SH, AE, Alt (and possibly Fisher), plus the presence of yet another grad student QB (if so, of very likely less capability than SH) or a first-time starter. Those are not the components of a CFBP team offensively, and without a serious upgrade in offensive coaching for the O-line and OC, we might be looking at a 6-6 season.
James Kress says:
Rees was there in a Parker costume.
Michael Case says:
I think we’re seeing what years of not having a good quarterback has done to the receiving crew. A couple of injuries and the remaining receivers are not good enough to get open.. Getting good quarterbacks is paramount to getting good receivers and the Irish need to continue working on that.
That said, it was refreshing to see ND come out on top this week after the heartbreaking loss last week. I do question Freeman’s comment that Estime should have downed the ball instead of taking it into the end zone to run more time off the clock? Why give up a sure 6 points to later try for 3?
Irish Penance says:
Freeman is a rookie HC (OK, technically he’s a sophomore) who is in over his head at this point. Leaving points on the field is almost never a good idea and certainly wasn’t in this instance. Freeman hiring a rookie OC also demonstrates bad judgment, especially since Marcus is a defensive guy. I like Freeman but he’s likely to cost ND another game or two this year with his bonehead ideas. The on-the-job-training continues. He may be a great coach someday, but it will be a long process.
mike says:
In that game, with our kicker, that approach would have courted disaster; I could easily see that ending in a missed FG and a 14-13 loss. AE saved/assured the victory with his run into the EZ. However, the OC choice is mostly on our “esteemed” AD, who fumbled the hiring of the UTAH OC, and then MF felt the need to fill the position for recruiting and spring practice stability reasons ASAP. I would take another run at that guy since Grannyglasses is soon to be out the door.
irishhawk50 says:
Agree and shows lack of coaching acumen by Freeman. A field goal is a maybe with this kicker and you lose if it is a miss. A clear path to the end zone is a 5 point lead (at a minimum) and forces Duke to make a TD to win or tie, as the case turned out. and march the whole field.
Hoss says:
I have no idea what Freeman is thinking saying Estime should have gone down; that’s a wtf moment for me. But after last weeks disastrous last three minutes I’m starting to really wonder about his end of game management.
ND fan in the South says:
I certainly hope someone is miss quoting Marcus Freeman on this issue of Estime taking a knee instead of a touchdown. I have not seen this article or report, but I hope it’s bogus.
manager47 says:
John – the Irish found a way to win and no question they need to regroup for next week with a more up tempo approach on offense and eliminate the mental mistakes = penalties. Defense up front was physical but worn down from too many 3 and outs from the offense in the 2nd half. I would agree with your analysis that Game Plan from Irish Coaching Staff was vanilla at best and didn’t adjust as Game unfolded. Offensive line play run blocking and pass protection didn’t help QB and running backs – offense scheme predictable and won’t fly in coming weeks. Sideline body language of Coach poor. Credit to Team for winning but improvement needed – secondary will be tested next week and offense must put up more points – potential must translate to better overall play.
sorin69 says:
About to fall asleep near the end of the first half, I turned it off. The 10-0 lead did not look secure at all, and when I went to bed early — hey, I’m up in years — I figured I wouldn’t be surprised if Duke pulled it out. Which they nearly did. Watching 2nd and 9 after a one-yard stop, again and again and again, would put anyone to sleep. So I missed the two-minute drill that saved the game. Hartman is a cut above anything we’ve seen in a long time at the qb spot. Mitchell Evans is a revelation. Shows the athletic skill that once made him a quarterback. Why not prepare an option package in which he throws a pass?
Denny Leo, '59 says:
Offense is as stale as 3 day old bread. OC is not up to the job!! Buy back Tommy Rees
D. Gremillon says:
ND can do better than Tommy Rees.
James Kress says:
My DOG can do better than Rees.
Michael Case says:
Can I have your dog? I’d love to have one capable of making millions so I don’t have it so ruff!
Irishwolf says:
Thank you John for your review- and the title of it!
Over the last 12 years or so, this is a game that the Irish would have lost, so, it was ugly but it’s a win.
On two different occasions I saw ND O-linemen being bull rushed and sent tumbing on their backside. Really?!
It looks like Elko had his ‘D’ keying off Estime. We’ll keep seeing that until we scheme for it- split backs or play-action, IMO.
irishhawk50 says:
Once again, poor coaching, poor route running and poor tackling in the secondary. The Irish dodged a bullet but these problems will come back to haunt them against the better teams on the schedule.
Jake in Cali says:
JVAN,
The good news is we won… I think we’re all breathing a sigh of relief..
Bad news:
– Terrible play calling…I mean just terrible..
– WR’s just not good enough
– Stupid penalties
– Poor Special Teams
-OL got bullied
– Missed Tackles
-Incredibly slow developing run plays
Finally, they need to let Hartman out of his cage.
Roll him out and let him make plays. Let him improvise….. Please!!!!
Scott says:
WRs are great… when they are all healthy. Thomas and Greathouse were sorely missed last night. With them playing, this would not have been close.
Jake in Cali says:
Scott;
The way Parker called the game last night, I’m not so sure…
Elko schooled him IMHO..
Scott says:
Jake –
Missing TWO of your starting receivers is a problem. I don’t care how you try to explain it. Jayden Thomas would have found separation along with Greathouse. You cannot compare Flores to either of them. Merriweather was, again, not playing to his potential. The push off was inexcusable. He was not running hard at all Saturday night. I think the game would have been far different with Greathouse and Thomas in the mix.
Drasail2 says:
Thank you for the coverage.
That was a very good Duke team and it took a lot of grit to escape with a win.
Freeman will have lots to do to clean up the mistakes. Hartman has grown on me.
Whatever we can fix to enable Estime is going to reap fat dividends.
Go Irish
Elkhart Joe says:
Whenever ND visits a team like Duke, it is a bowl game for the home team.
mike says:
With ALL due respect, that’s a very tired old trope, and really no longer accurate. We intimidate no one. We struggle to beat teams we should dominate, especially as the season wears on, and our O and D become more and more predictable. Other teams adjust, we don’t. It’s not the players, it’s the coaching. Are and Low would have crushed Duke last night, 9.5 times out of 10. The geniuses since would have lost.
One Historian says:
Who, may I ask, are ‘Are and Low’?
Michael Case says:
I think, if you use a Notre Dame spellcheck, they’ll autocorrect to Ara and Lou….LOL!
a68domer says:
I feel much better this morning than I did last Sunday even though the Irish didn’t play as well – go figure… What happened to the creativity of the Parker, Guidugli, Rudolph triumvirate? I don’t remember any screens during the game. And what happened to the unbalanced line of a couple weeks ago? At the time they looked like geniuses…
Irish Penance says:
Parker is a major disappointment so far. Golden isn’t much better. I think ND would have been much better off stepping up and hiring a legitimate, proven OC and staying away from a DC who had been out of the college game for years and was never particularly successful at the college level to begin with. Freeman hiring his ‘boy,’ Parker, reminds me of Brian Kelly sticking with those he already knew, and we know how that turned out. Kelly finally got over his nepotism when he nearly got fired. I hope Freeman learns more quickly. Unfortunately, the players and fans will pay the price until he does.
Jerrod says:
Golden has the 15th ranked defense in PPG, 11th in YPG. Considering this includes Ohio State and a 1st round NFL QB at Duke, not sure what you are complaining about here…
mike says:
The fake punt was an unbalanced line that lead to a 34-yard gain, and ultimately the opening TD.
Boomer80 says:
Yeah, exactly what I’ve been thinking. Estime off-tackle, again and again. A single play run attack, yawn. What the heck happened to all the fancy plays they ran in their earlier games???
jeff96 says:
An ugly win is better than the alternative. They were missing several key players and still came away with a win against a ranked team, in prime time, on the road, a week after a crushing loss. They lost games like this last year, against lesser opponents, at home. They over relied on Estime and Mitchell, and could have done more to take heat off of Hartman.
ND fan in the South says:
Hartman said in the post game interview that Duke had the best defensive line we have faced this year.
During the game, I kept blaming our highly touted offensive line for not protecting him better. I believe they did their best against a very good pass rush.
Hydrostan says:
The good: Estime, Cross, Evans and Hartman. Now on the other side: Merriweather. I look at this kid and he has the body and speed to become a star wide receiver. But….drop after drop….after. What to do with this kid?
Irish Penance says:
Bury him on the bench for now and send him to the sports psychologist. A walk-on from the residence halls could play better. Hopefully Merriweather will get his head screwed on straight eventually.
ND fan in the South says:
I doubt it.
The Obvious says:
Maybe a vision problem.
mike says:
I would suggest it’s a coaching problem. Assign him and the WR coach the rest of the season to fix whatever they think are the root causes, and if unable suggest a transfer of BOTH.
Mike says:
I suggest examining whether the root causes were his experience in high school, where it may have come too easy and he never had to try very hard, let alone fight for a catch. He was bigger and faster and his opposition was smaller and slower and probably not as hungry as players who make it to top drawer college football. Maybe he never quite internalized that once the ball is in the air, it’s anyone’s, and that even though he ran his route correctly, he might have to do something besides that to make the catch. That it’s not all on the quarterback. But I’m guessing. Snark reactions such as “Obviously” go without saying. The core issue now is whether he can change, whether it’s coachable or goes deeper. Beat Louisville.
Will says:
Vannie, congratulations on predicting the Irish to win. I have 3 points and 3 questions. Point 1: it’s very eerie how much of a mirror image this game was to the OSU game: the final score, the final yardage stats, and the final drive with a missed interception and a fourth and long. Point 2: the team and the coaches have not fully recovered from OSU as they were still talking about that game all week and even after the Duke game. This distraction was clearly obvious on the field. Point 3: Freeman has returned the Irish to traditional ND football: power offense and tough defense. ND played lots of 12, 22, and even 13 personnel sets. Question 1: Vannie, is it me or does Evans look faster and more athletic than Mayer? Question 2: Vannie, I have a theory after following ND since Ara’s first year, 1964, that you can tell after a year or two if a head coach is going to be a good one. After losing his first three games, Freeman’s record is 14 wins and 3 losses. What can you say about his future as a head coach? Question 3: Vannie, can you ever recall ND playing 4 straight (without a bye) night games against undefeated teams on national television in the middle of the season?
John Vannie says:
First of all, you can call me John.
As to your questions, Evans is longer, leaner, and more fluid than Mayer. He’s a little faster as well. Both have great hands and use their body well to shield defenders. Mayer’s other strengths are near perfect technique and a high football IQ. As Evans develops those traits, he can become an even better player.
Regarding Freeman, his decision to elevate Parker to OC was ill-advised, although it was Swarbrick’s meddling that cost him Andy Ludwig from Utah after Ludwig gave Freeman a verbal “Yes”. Aside from that, Freeman is still working to upgrade the talent level. He’s had to paper over a few pretty significant weaknesses left to him by the recruiting misses of the previous staff. As this seaon progresses, opposing coaches are getting better at identifying ND’s deficiencies and exploiting them in games. It’s going to be harder for ND to score against decent teams moving forward this season. I thought Golden did a good job against OSU and Duke despite issues at DE, linebacker and safety. We’ll see how he does against USC. Also, recruiting was a bit easier for ND 30-60 years ago. Neither Ara nor Lou had to personally spend a lot of time and energy to land prospects. Freeman does. Regardless, I expect to see a contending team next season. The QB situation will determine how that shakes out. In any event, I am not ready to make a pronouncement on Freeman’s future as a head coach without more evidence. We have to be a little more patient with him.
Finally, there has never been a stretch of night games on ND’s schedule like this one. I wish they were getting a break before USC but it comes the week after. It’s not ideal because ND won’t play anyone particularly good for the rest of the regular season.
Will says:
John it is even though Vannie is such a cool name.
John Vannie says:
Not as cool as Joe Montana though.
The Obvious says:
Or … Windsor Horne Lockwood III or … Mitch Rapp or Jack Reacher!
Terrun says:
They should have put the game away in the 2nd quarter. The offense is the same disaster ever since the Northwestern game in 1994, besides Weis’ 1st 2 years. The coach’s facial expressions say it all, and Golden has some huge defensive lapses like the 3rd and 19, and the touchdown pass last night when nobody followed the motion receiver.
QueensIrish says:
I’m baffled by those who do not think Golden is doing a good job. Yes, there are deficiencies at DE, yes they do not blitz well and there are far too many missed tackles especially in the secondary. But they have yielded 75 points in 5 games and more specifically 55 against three power five teams. You can’t argue the totals. If they cleaned up the perviously mentioned items they would be elite a la Georgia two seasons ago which with the current roster that is unrealistic. The main goal of the DC is keep points off the board which clearly Golden has done and done well. I’ll take any DC who game in game out keeps the opponents under 20.
goirish1988 says:
1) The absence of Greathouse and Thomas was very noticeable.
2) The way we came out playing to win (and Freeman’s comments after last week’s game that he had told the team to play to win) was something we never saw from Kelly. It gives me a little hope for the future. A lack of leadership somewhere allowed that momentum to stall.
3) If it takes overcoming a 4th and 16 to beat Duke, we have a ways to go, even accounting for the inevitable letdown and the absences of those receivers.
4) I’m a little embarrassed to say that I very much enjoyed watching the end of the LSU game.
joe says:
John, that was quite a final series by Hartman and company to pull out the victory!! I’m so glad we got the ” Moose” as our RB!!!
John, i know the ND player’s crown of his helmet hit the Duke player’s leg. But how the heck those ACC refs call that targeting!! I thought targeting can only be called if the crown of the helmet hits from the waist to the head?
Also, is there anyway that ND could get neutral refs for their games instead of refs from the conference of the team ND is playing?
Thanks and GO IRISH BEAT CARDINALS!!!!!!!
John Vannie says:
Joe, I try to avoid talking about the officiating in my articles about the games. Complaints from fans fall on deaf ears and using the refs as an excuse for a loss is never going anywhere. It’s incumbent upon ND’s Athletic Department to push for changes but I don’t believe they have addressed what seems to many of us like obvious bias. It’s no secret that Power Five schools want ND to join a conference and this is one tool they can use to drive us in that direction. The targeting call and the punt touchback reversal are examples of referees going out of their way to punish ND. They also continue to pick up flags for obvious penalties by opponents and conveniently fail to see blatant holding. It’s maddening.
Scott says:
Vannie, I also see the never called stream of CONSTANT holding penalties every week. There were more than a few against Duke. It is maddening and has determined the outcome of games in the past. The obvious PI that was waived off was blatant conference bias and you are not going to tell me that Elko’s whining had nothing to do with the official picking up the flag. As much as I like Mike Elko, he should have kept his mouth shut because that ball was catchable and his defender shielded Merriweather from the ball. That, by the very definition, is PI and Elko and the ACC refs know it, yet they were content to try to give Duke the game. That could have been an outright catch for a TD or, at the very least, would have set ND up inside the 5 yard line and in scoring position.
And, don’t get me started on the replay and reversal of the spot of the coffin corner punt. That was an illegal use of replay that was allowed and the commentators said the same. It was horse shit and gave Duke the ball with better field position on a scoring drive.
After witnessing these things, as much as I do not like players taunting the crowd, I did not at all mind Estime signaling “Nitey night!” to the stunned Duke fans after his 30-yard game winner.
mike says:
Targeting is an optional for the refs to call in 3 situations, as has been explained during broadcasts. One of these is using the crown of the helmet to strike the ballcarrier “ANYwhere from head to toe,” as last night’s expert explained. The purpose of that specific wording is primarily to protect the TACKLER, not the ballcarrier, from cervical spine injury. As I understand it, the other components involve launching, and hitting above the shoulder.
Scott Friery says:
You said it right. In this case, the refs made the right call. Anyone seeing it differently needs to read the rules on targeting.
George says:
Surprised at the offensive play calling last night, especially on the run game. ND must have run 90% up the middle off tackle with minimal success. This year ND has excellent speed and power at RB and does not use the speed backs on edge runs? Not sure what the issue is but we should be looking for a new OC now for 2024.
Steve says:
I’d offer 3 points for your consideration. First, ND dominated the first half and should have been up by 24 in the 3d quarter. Doesn’t matter where the blame is apportioned for that not happening.
Second, comparing Freeman to previous coaches is pointless because the coaching world is so different. The old saying is that in college it’s all about the Joes and the Schmoes, not the Xs and Os. (Charlie Weis’ “decided schematic advantage” notwithstanding.) NIL and transfer portal have completely changed the way programs acquire and retain the Joes and Schmoes. To have success a head coach must successfully manage and manipulate NIL and transfer portal matters. Recruiting and retaining talent will change again when the courts rule players are employees of the schools entitled to be paid directly by the schools under collectively bargained agreements.
Third, and I know I’m in a distinct minority here, this season underscores why remaining quasi-independent is a bad idea. After the Ohio St. loss, the focus could have been on going undefeated in the ACC, then winning the conference championship game v. Florida St., and having a rock solid case for making the playoffs. Instead, these games v. Duke, Louisville, Pitt, Clemson and Wake are just games filling out a contractual obligation to guarantee a home base for the other sports. The team may or may not get up for these games because they are supposed to win them anyway. Although losing them will kill any playoff chances, winning them won’t help secure a playoff spot because these games are not stepping stones to securing a conference championship. After finishing the season with resounding wins v. Wake and Stanford, the Irish will sit home while the Committee watches the conference championship games. The fiction that football is independent when they commit about half their schedule to the ACC while forfeiting the opportunity to win a conference championship does not serve ND football well. It makes a lot money for ND, but does not serve the football program well.
Vairish84 says:
A win is a win. We seem to be playing all of our offense between the hashmarks. Pretty rare that we stretch the field horizontally.
Merriweather needs work. I am guessing it is the same in practice and that is why Hartman tends to not look for him. Also, almost all the routes tend to be deep sideline. The one crosser he ran, he dropped. Maybe he is a safety.
Elko basically doubled the gaps and figured we would not run anything behind the charging LBs. Play action to a quick Tyree would work there, but Hartman does not target him all that often either.
I think Estime has gotten a little bit of happy feet and is not hitting the hole, or what passes for it, and taking 4 or 5 and is looking for the home run. He was doing pretty well in the second half at getting us to 2 and 5 or 6. However, then our second down play calling was consistently bad.
Our WR room, especially with Merriweather not stepping up is way too small. Given that he had at least 2 and usually 6 inches on every DB, should have made life simple. Hartman has a lot of trust in Thomas and Greathouse, and now Flores. Without the first two, the WRs were an afterthought.
The D did fine, and even Liufau made a play or two. i could be wrong, but I don’t think Sneed played and I only remember seeing Kiser on a couple of plays.
We are not going to win games 70-0. Yes, I wish Parker was more aggressive. As for Golden, sometimes the other team will make plays. At least there were no 3rd and 19s. Of course, there was a 4th and 16, they went prevent and Hartman got 17. Elko said the same thing as Golden did.
One Historian says:
The job of Head Football Coach at Notre Dame is arguably the most visible, pressure-filled position in the sport, and both of our last two great coaches, Ara Parseghian and Lou Holtz, had multiple years of HC experience prior to arriving in South Bend.
Our present HC, Marcus Freeman, is in only his 2nd year as an HC at any level, and I think he is doing a terrific job and we are beyond lucky to have him. Mistakes by both him and his assistants? Beyond question, but they are growing and I am proud of this team.
Before the season I predicted a record of 11-1, at worst 10-2. I stand by that – we’ll be just fine. NC this year? No, but soon, very soon.
(As long as we DITCH those green uniforms.)
Irish Coffee says:
Like many of you, I cannot understand why the offensive line looks so bad. If the coaches and players can overcome those issues, that likely solves 80% of the problems we saw on the field. If Sam Hartman had more time to throw and the ground game was at least decent, ND wins this game handily. The offense sputtered, and that typically does not help the defense (especially later in the game), which had to spend more time on the field as a result. If you had told me Duke was only going to score 14 points, I would have expected the game to be a shoo-in. If we did not have Sam Hartman, we could easily be 3-3 at this point vs. 5-1.
Monty B says:
Lots written about problems on offense. I agree mostly. But I continue to believe the biggest deficit that will will result in losses in the remaining games is the lack of even moderately effective tackling, especially by the secondary in space. Go look at a replay of Benjamin Morrison’s embarrassing effort to tackle the Duke quarterback on what turned out to be a 33 yard scramble in the 4th quarter. There really is no excuse at this point in the season. Ok, maybe they are converted wide receivers and maybe Coach Freeman really has been convinced live practice on tackling is too risky, but tackling remains a fundamental necessity in this game. I simply do not buy that scholarships athletes at ND are unable to learn how to do it. And if it is unwillingness that’s the problem, the unwilling need to find a seat on the pine. Something has to be done or I’m afraid the team is set to lose games it otherwise should win.
VegasPoker74 says:
Merriweather has lazy hands. If the ball is dropped right in his lap, he’s great but if he has to make an aggressive move to catch the ball, he’s helpless. That’s why he needs to be benched and replaced by anyone…a freshman…a freshman defensive lineman… ANYONE!