Irish Face Mid-Term Exam at FSU

Notre Dame and Florida State, two undefeated teams ranked in the top five, square off on Saturday night in Tallahassee with a spot in this year’s college football playoff possibly at stake. The Seminoles are the defending national champions, and are led by the talented but controversial quarterback Jameis Winston. Despite the legal troubles, rumors and accusations swirling around Winston that are reaching a crescendo this week, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner will start for the hosts. ABC will provide national television coverage beginning at 8:00 PM Eastern time.

Jimbo & Jameis Florida State is coached by Jimbo Fisher, who has won 51 of 61 games in four plus seasons after being elevated to the top spot in 2010. He joined the program as Offensive Coordinator in 2007. Fisher has staunchly defended Winston throughout the various criminal, university and NCAA investigations surrounding his quarterback, which is either admirable and disturbing depending on one’s point of view. His goal is obviously to mitigate the level of distractions facing his team, but it’s doubtful that the media explosion in the past week will impact what happens on the field.

The Seminoles have not been quite as statistically dominant this season as they were in 2013 when they cruised to the title, but they have managed to overcome all challenges. The Irish have also won when not at their best, but the recent spate of turnovers, sloppy tackling and a regression in special teams performance gives rise to concern about their ability to pull off an upset in this contest. The history between these programs dates back to 1981, and they played a memorable classic in 1993 as the top two teams in the country. Notre Dame won that matchup by 31-24 against another Seminole Heisman winner, Charlie Ward.

Although the connection between these schools doesn’t fall under the classic definition of a rivalry on the level of ND-USC or FSU-Florida, the players and coaches know each other well. “They’re a great program,” FSU senior left tackle Cameron Erving said. “They have great history, great tradition. A lot like us.” Well, okay, but I’m not so sure Notre Dame is comfortable with such comparisons.

Both teams are relatively healthy at this midway point in the season. Florida State center Austin Barron has missed the last couple of games and will be replaced by Ryan Hoefeld, while linebacker Matthew Thomas was reinstated by Fisher to play in this game after serving a suspension since September 5 for a violation of team rules. Irish defensive back Cody Riggs will start despite suffering an ankle injury in last week’s win over North Carolina.

NOTRE DAME’S OFFENSE vs. FLORIDA STATE’S DEFENSE

The Irish running game made proverbial strides last week when Coach Brian Kelly scrapped his three man rotation and stuck with Tarean Folston, who responded with an outstanding second half. Improvement by the embattled offensive line was also evident, and the balanced attack was a major factor in pulling out the win. Kelly will need similar diversification this week to keep Florida State’s pass rushers away from Everett Golson, who has appeared increasingly jittery in the pocket of late and has committed a few very costly turnovers.

The Seminoles lost several starters from last season’s elite defense and have only one senior starter in end Desmond Hollin, but the underclassmen possess significant talent. Linemen Eddie Goldman and Derrick Mitchell, Jr. can make life difficult for the interior of Notre Dame’s offensive line, and inside linebackers Terrance Smith and Reggie Northrup run down ball carriers from sideline to sideline. The return of Thomas, a former five star recruit, adds depth and talent to the mix. The outside linebackers represent an imposing hybrid of size and athletic ability. Mario Edwards, DeMarcus Walker and Lorenzo Featherston are exceptional athletes and will be difficult to block. If this front seven has a weakness, it is the tendency for its players to freelance rather than maintain discipline.

The Florida State secondary has juniors Ronald Darby and P.J. Williams at the corner, sophomores Jalen Ramsey and Tyler Hunter at safety, and Nate Andrews at the nickel slot. This group is aggressive and can be beaten for big plays on occasion, but Golson must have time to throw. The Irish quarterback has routinely held the ball too long on deep throws when he’s not running from pressure, and the Seminole defenders have sufficient closing speed to negate any potential completions if the ball is not delivered right on time.

Notre Dame must play an error free game and maintain balance in its attack to keep pace with the relentless Seminole offense. The Irish need to manage time of possession to limit Winston’s opportunities, and absolutely refrain from gift-wrapping cheap scores with turnovers. This does not mean Golson should be conservative in his passing or afraid to run for a first down if the situation demands it, but he must consistently make good decisions.

FLORIDA STATE’S OFFENSE vs. NOTRE DAME’S DEFENSE

Aside from his physical size and dual threat capability, Winston’s strengths are his accuracy, patience and knack for finding an open receiver. He does not throw the ball deep downfield very frequently, but rather spreads it around to numerous talented backs and receivers who can slip through the initial tackle and convert short passes into long gains. Rashad Greene is the leading receiver and one of the best in the country. He is capable of coming down with the ball even in tight coverage, and is the team’s primary outside threat. When Winston simply wants a first down, tight end Nick O’Leary is often the target. He is one of those players that always seems to be open at a critical juncture.

A powerful offensive line comprised of five massive seniors enables the Seminole attack to dominate opponents. Guard Tre Thomas is the best of this group and a probable first team All-American. As mentioned above, however, Barron will not play and backup center Hoefeld is only a redshirt freshman. Still, this group protects Winston even better than the Tallahassee police. If Notre Dame intends to blitz, it will be a high risk proposition. Generating pressure with four rushers would be the best scenario for the Irish, but that is going to be difficult.

Florida State has its own trio of running backs that regularly see action. Senior Karlos Williams is the starter at 225 pounds, and he shares the workload with sophomore Mario Pender and lightning-fast freshman Dalvin Cook. Pender may not be at full strength this week, so Cook may receive more touches. Winston can also run the ball effectively, but that rarely becomes necessary. Although the Seminoles tilt toward the pass in their play selection, they are not afraid to run it in the red zone where they’ve had very good success.

The Irish must try to exploit Hoefeld with Jarron Jones and Sheldon Day up the middle, and use its outside rushers to keep Winston from rolling outside the pocket and completing a high percentage of his throws. Tight coverage is needed throughout the secondary, but more importantly Notre Dame cannot miss the initial tackle when a receiver catches the ball. These escapes happened frequently against North Carolina, but the Irish intensity level should be much greater in this game. Despite the best laid plans, the Seminoles are too talented to be held completely in check, so it’s important for the Irish to make them earn their way downfield and hit them hard every step of the way.

SPECIAL TEAMS

As much as Notre Dame fans appreciate kicker Kyle Brindza, Florida State’s Roberto Aguayo is even better. Aguayo has not missed a field goal this season and is reliable from more than 50 yards. Unlike Brindza, Aguayo does not assume double duty as the team’s punter, but that is not a very demanding job. Cason Beatty handles that chore with average skill on the rare occasions when his number is called.

The Seminole coverage teams are excellent. They allow just 18 yards per return when Aguayo does not boot the ball through the end zone, and only five of Beatty’s punts have been returned this season for minimal yardage. In the return game, Greene fields the punts and Kermit Whitfield handles the majority of the kickoffs. Each is a threat to go the distance. Notre Dame’s return game has fallen off in recent weeks, but the coverage units have been solid. The Irish cannot allow any significant breakdowns in the area that tilt momentum toward Florida State.

SUMMARY

1993 Showdown The Irish need to win the battle of turnovers, commit fewer penalties, and play well enough on special teams to realize no worse than a stalemate in terms of field position. On defense, they must play disciplined assignment football and tackle crisply to minimize yards after catch. Defensive Coordinator Brian VanGorder will be challenged to find ways to pressure Winston and penetrate Florida State’s imposing front line without exposing his defense to big plays. This is a tall order, but that is the task facing Notre Dame.

The Seminoles are aware that Golson has been affected by pressure in the pocket and careless with the football in recent weeks, and they undoubtedly smell blood in the water. The quick 14 point deficit against North Carolina cannot be overcome against this opponent in its home stadium, so Notre Dame needs to be crisp from the start. Defensively, the Irish must compete on every play, as Florida State is more methodical than explosive in its ability to put points on the board.

Here are a few questions that will shed light on the outcome:

Will the Irish offensive line be able to protect Golson?

Which team will be more effective running the ball?

Will the Irish defense avoid missed tackles that extend drives?

Which team will win the turnover battle?

Can Golson match the accuracy and efficiency of Winston?

Will a big play on special teams impact the outcome?

Will Notre Dame gain a measure of respect at the national level regardless of the outcome?

PREDICTION

The Irish should be able to hang with the Seminoles as long as they don’t succumb to the jitters and get off to a poor start. Golson was one of the few Notre Dame players that performed well in the championship game against Alabama, so it won’t be surprising to see him rise to this occasion. The matchup should be entertaining and competitive throughout, but Florida State’s offensive line and skill position talent will ultimately wear down the Irish.

FLORIDA STATE 38 NOTRE DAME 27

 

27 thoughts on “Irish Face Mid-Term Exam at FSU

  1. Always glad to be one of the first to comment. Good write-up. Here’s where I hopefully prove more right.
    1) last weeks game was the ultimate wake up call for Golson. He will not fumble or throw a bad pick.(They may still get one on a good play). They may also get a blind side sack-fumble. That is never on the qb.
    2) Van Gorder learned lots from last week and will have a good plan.
    3) Jameis is distracted and will make a couple of key mistakes.
    4) Our guys do relish the underdog role and will play great.
    therefore; 31-30 us.
    Go Irish

    • Michael Ahern says:

      Analysis logical as always. However, I’ve been to two games this year ( Michigan and North Carolina) and I think I’m getting a feel for this team and these coaches. I think this is going to be a Notre Dame moment- going to be close heading into the last possession- team that has the ball last wins. ND 31FSU 30.

  2. brendenomalley says:

    Sad to say, but I find your analysis spot on as well as the prediction. I think we will know fairly early whether or not this will be Alabama Redux or a Notre Dame Moment. Now if Lou was stalking the sidelines….

    • I would say Lou was one of the greatest college coaches pulling off things at ND that were quiet amazing. We might never have another run like 88-93. That said, give Kelly some credit here. He is 43-15 and beat 3 teams that finished ranked in 2012 & 2013 and one that will surely finished ranked already in 2014. This FSU team is NOT anywhere close to 2012 Alabama. If you think ND is going to get run off the field on Saturday, think again. FSU is struggling with everybody outside of Wake Forest. ND has the talent, speed and QB to match up to FSU, with superior leadership. FSU has been practically begging for a loss and they will have one come saturday night. Go IRISH!!!

      • brendenomalley says:

        I hope you are right. If we are solid early and avoid the big mistakes we can have a real shot. My experience with coaching kids says that it is really hard for a leopard to change his spots aka Golson with TO.

        Love this team regardless.

  3. NDBonecrusher says:

    Vannie you’re wrong. 100% wrong. 0% right.
    Let me clarify–your analysis is spot on as usual. But the score prediction is incorrect. What’s being an ND Football Fan without a little blind faith? I know–it’s not your job to have blind faith, it’s your job to break it down for us by the numbers and I’m not sure the last time you picked a game winner incorrectly. But you’re wrong this time. Kelly’s lads beat FSU 31-24, just like my sophomore year in ’93. It’s gonna be awesome.

  4. Mike in California says:

    Vannie, I must say your spot-on.. Too much from the massive FSU line for our Irish to handle.
    FSU 45 ND 19

  5. Is that a “first!” post up there, Canuck? ND was a 12-point underdog the last time I checked. I’d say that’s a great bet if I felt confident that the turnover problems wouldn’t continue. On the plus side, F$U’s turnover margin is within the average range over the course of the season as well (just like ND’s). Each side’s pass “D” stats are also similarly average to date. Neither side seems to have a great running game (again, based on the stats only) but the Irish have the greater rush “D” numbers. I’m hoping this means the Irish have the better chance of being able to pass and run but it’s always up to BK, too. #ccfond

  6. This match up is a lot closer then most experts believe. I feel as though QB is a slight advantage to FSU. Coaches are both good and I would expect Van Gorders creative blitz packages to tilt the advantage to ND. Both defenses can be vulnerable- FSU more so to the deep ball and ND more to Winston creating havoc moving around. FSU has an advantage with their offensive line but ND is steadily improving and held up quite well in its biggest moments. Kicking advantage goes to FSU by a healthy margin. The last time ND was in this type of game was against Bama and although most people think they got whipped and didn’t belong on the field, a few terrible calls early snowballed and caused a young team to get unhinged. This wont happen again. Expect ND to get off fast which will help offset the crowd noise and play their best game of the year. ND 34-29

  7. viciousweinerdog says:

    ND should spend a lot of time on implementing the screen pass this week. It’s the best way to slow down a pass rush that will no doubt be coming fast and furious after Golson. We have not been a RB screen team since Kelly showed up, thus it could pay dividends in a game like this since FSU has not seen it from us.

  8. If Kelly can stay out of his own way the Irish have a very good chance. If we come out with some life instead of flat like we do in all big games since Kelly has been at ND then we have an even better chance.

    • The Irish did not come out flat against Michigan this year. As far as I can remember, they have come out rocking many times.

  9. Hard to imagine an upset after squeaking it out against a tremendously inferior North Carolina team. Although the dominance of Stanford gives me hope we can do it.

    If we lose the turnover battle, we’re toast for sure. If not, we have a 50-50 chance to knock off those thugs. Golson will be ready to rock.

    Only wish they were still #1…

  10. ND is going to get crushed by a much better team this weekend. Having said that, I like the direction of the program and I think ND is playoff bound in 2015.

  11. IT’S SIMPLE……PLAY LIKE THE FIRST TWO GAMES OF THE SEASON…..IRISH WILL BE IN THE TOP 3……..PLAY LIKE THE LAST FOUR GAMES…….WILL BE EMBARRASSED AND SPECULATION OF OUR BELOVED PROGRAM ISN’T READY FOR THE BIG TIME…..AGAIN!!!!!!

    GO IRISH!

  12. I had hoped that Golson had put his bad game behind him each of the last three weeks, but was wrong. I am not sure if he will do it this week. He must have a near flawless game if the Irish are to succeed. I have seen a little of Florida State and they don’t seem that dominating, but neither does ND. As Paul Newman said to Robert Redford in the Sting after Redford said the other gang wasn’t as tough as they thought. “Neither are we” Go Irish!

  13. I agree with Lars…who ever wins the turnover battle will win the game. Vannie has a good prediction , but I think it will be a closer score 34 – 31 fsu. If we win then ill be the idiot storming the field and trying to take down the goal posts. Best fiance ever for getting the tickets. GO ND! !

  14. It always amazes me that as ND finally has some sustainable success there are so many BK bashers. I see this all of the time. You people are out of your friggin mind! He has finally brought credibility back to the program and all of those naysayers that bring up getting throttled by Bama or a few other tough losses do you remember what the previous 15 or so years was like?? We would consistently lose 5-7 games a year and more embarrasingly lose tons of games at home. Kelly has gotten the players to start protecting home field, has recruited more athletes then the previous 3 HC’s combined, and has created an expectation of winning again. I just pray that if they get blown out tomorrow night or should happen to make the playoff and get killed that we dont end up thinking there is a coach out there they could do better.Let’s go Irish!

  15. Catholics vs. Crab legs

    This game could really go either way and on paper I’d have to say FSU has a slight advantage since they are at home and as long as the FSU training table doesn’t run out of crab legs. But I’m hoping Kelly, Van Gorder and Co. can pull a rabbit out of their hats similar to 2012 when they traveled to Oklahoma. We heard all week how Landry Jones would pass for 1000 yards and ND would get run out of the stadium, but somehow ND emerged victorious 30-13.

    But ND will earn no respect either way. If ND wins the anti-ND sports punditocracy will say that Jameis was distracted and that FSU really isn’t that good. If FSU wins, especially by double digits, then they’ll say that ND has been a pretender all season and doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the playoff or the top 10. The only thing that will quiet the naysayers is for them the beat FSU, win out and hoist the crystal football in January 2015.

  16. If Notre Dame defensive effort last week was just a one week letdown ND will win. I think it was because the team went to 3 or 4 man rush against North Carolina, which was not the way ND played the first 5 games. I’m sorry to say it but I think last weeks defensive scheme has Brian Kelly written all over it. It’s not bashing it’s true, if VanGroder can run the defense the way he wants Notre Dame wins…easy.

  17. I will not be watching the game this evening (what heathen schedules the annual Boy Scout campout on a Notre Dame Saturday?!?) but will have the DVR set. Here’s hoping I actually want to watch the game Sunday afternoon. I am hopeful, but not optimistic, that Golson has somehow learned about ball-security this week. I think we need to win the turnover battle convincingly…as in +2…to pull off the upset, because we are not likely to be as efficient on offense as the Seminoles.

    The only way I can see us winning is if I predict a loss, so FSU wins 38-17.