In reply to: We could be ready to fire Kelly's successor by now. posted by Otter
Definitely can understand the debate and differing opinions as to whether PJ Fleck has proved enough, is “ready” for or is a good fit for ND. Jury is probably out still and it’s reasonable to conclude his style and personality aren’t and never will be a good fit at ND.
Living in Kalamazoo, growing up in Big Ten country, watching him up close and from a distance, he did things at WMU that likely won’t be repeated, ever. 13-0 reg season, beating multiple power 5 opponents, drawing ESPN College GameDay here, and recruiting at unprecedented levels for a MAC school - let alone one with no history of winning like WMU. It’s early at MN still, but he beat their biggest rival on the road last year and beat a top 5-10 team in Penn State this year. Not exactly things MN does, ever.
The most important takeaway about Fleck though is he is a flat out relentless and supremely energetic & enthusiastic recruiter and motivator. Watching the skill positions at MN and a few of his recruits at WMU still, other than Claypool, those schools have better overall talent at RB and WR than ND, imho. That should NEVER be the case.
Those 2 qualities are an absolute must in whoever the next coach is at ND. They sure aren’t present now.
1-11, 8-5, 8-5, 13-1 (losing to Wisconsin 24-16 in the Cotton Bowl and finishing #15)
Minn has won 10 games twice in their history. This year and 10-3 2003.
kil went 3-9, 6-7, 8-5, 8-5, 6-7 (kil 4-3, claeys 2-4)
claeys then went 9-4 before Fleck took over.
Fleck has gone 5-7, 7-6, 10-2
Fleck has the highest winning percentage of any MN coach since 1950.
Post 1899 the three coaches ahead of him left in 1921, 1929, 1950.
He's definitely a "flavor of the month", but I'd take him over our stale imbecile any day of the week. Heck, I'd take a Ravens food vendor...
Personally, I don't like him, and hope he does not coach at ND.
Minnesota won 23 games the three seasons before he arrived. They've won 22 games in his three seasons. He's a good fit at smaller schools they can buy into his underdog mentality. I don't think he would be a good fit at Notre Dame.
The Penn State win was big, but he's 2-10 in his career against ranked teams, and #24 Toledo was the other win. If you think it's asking too much for him to beat ranked teams at Western Michigan and Minnesota consider that he's 7-24 against teams that finish with less than six losses in his career, and one of those two wins this season depends on Georgia Southern winning a bowl game. Basically his entire resume is built on beating teams he should have beaten and then beating a team that struggled to beat Pitt and Indiana this year.
"Who has he coached under"?
His success at Minn certainly trumps whatever BK had when he ascended to the ND throne.
Swarbrick needs to make like hobbs and watch every down of every Baylor game and press conference next year.
If we don't/can't get Meyer.